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Gaudion M said:
You have that the wrong way round. The cost is collected by the firm that receives the goods, so in your example it is Tesco who will have to pay. The EU based export firm are not involved although there will be a requirement for more paperwork but that is it for them. The onerous task is on the UK government to track what comes in, calculate the tariff and serve demand for payment on the importer. It can only logically push up prices in the UK.

As for non EU trade - when we leave the EU we will have worse trade deals with non EU countries than we have now so we will be hitting these suppliers with increased tariffs at the same time. Most of our food comes in with zero tariff via the EU trade deals (see image), we lose all of these in Jan 2021. While brexiteers like to talk this up as an opportunity it is in reality a battle to get back to where we are.

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I dissagree, Tesco may have to pay initially but they will pass those costs on to the suppier. Thats how they work. As regards trade you and i will have to see. But i will leave you with this thought. If brexit is so obviously disastrous why are the EU so keen to tie us to their regulations. Why dont they just leave us be and watch us stagger along. That doesnt add up does it? The truth is they know that if we prosper outside of the EU others will definitely follow our lead. So they are doing everything in their power to stop that happening. So they can continue to hold on to their little vanity project.
 
BobKowalski said:
The EU will implement full checks on UK goods from the 1st Jan. France and Netherlands spent millions on upgrading and building new custom facilities in 2019. Extra capacity and extra resources. We have spent nothing.

No one is ringing anyone saying don’t export. All they are saying is you will need new paperwork and there will be more stringent checks on UK goods. For the French farmer and his 5,000 chickens he will just waltz through because we are not implementing new paperwork or new checks on our side. We may not even be lobbing a tariff on as we may not have systems in place. It’s the UK farmer trying to get his produce into France who will have his paperwork checked, or goods given its animal produce or having a tariff levied.

So you want France and Netherlands to waive their legal requirements to relax custom controls, something we have to do because we no longer have time left to put the necessary systems in place? Sure. What are we going to concede for that? Payments? Fishing? What exactly? You want France do us a favour? In a no deal scenario after a pandemic, and solely because we couldn’t get out shit together in time? Oh and refused to accept an offer to extend transition that can help both sides?

I’m sure Macron gearing up for re-election will be all sweetness and light and eager to help the Brits out of a hole they have dug for themselves. What could possibly go wrong?
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Bob they need our trade and they need our money and they want tarriffs less than we do. I know you will be dissapointed when it works out but you will have to wait and see.
 
Scotland and Wales are pulling out of the meeting with Johnson. The united front we are presenting in these negotiations going well

 
It’s like a parody account. It’s called Brexit mate. That’s what ‘changed it’ and why it won’t be business as usual. Four fucking years and still none the wiser. Thick as fucking pigshit.

‘It is sensible for the government to abandon plans to introduce full border checks on 1 January. Our approach should be 'business as usual' unless the EU changes it’ @DavidDavisMP
 
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Churchlawtonblue said:
I dissagree, Tesco may have to pay initially but they will pass those costs on to the suppier. Thats how they work. As regards trade you and i will have to see. But i will leave you with this thought. If brexit is so obviously disastrous why are the EU so keen to tie us to their regulations. Why dont they just leave us be and watch us stagger along. That doesnt add up does it? The truth is they know that if we prosper outside of the EU others will definitely follow our lead. So they are doing everything in their power to stop that happening. So they can continue to hold on to their little vanity project.
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The section of Barnier's comments I posted earlier explains it well

They simply cannot suffer the UK to be a genuinely independent nation free of the EU's controls just off their shores.

Their preference is to lock us into their controls - Remainers were gifting them that - if not go full on competition and seek to do damage in the hope we will return

That is why I do not believe that we will get a deal - so we should fuck off any extension and move on

Really quite simple when you get your head from up the EU's arse
 
Celebrate your victory chaps.

GDP up the shitter and a no-deal Brexit is a superb win for JRM and other disaster capitalists. Drink it in...
 
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Scotland and Wales are pulling out of the meeting with Johnson. The united front we are presenting in these negotiations going well

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Are you suprised? I'm not.
As a nation if the UK wanted to Remain we'd be remaining.
Covid-19 has knocked the possibility of independence for Scotland well into the future (it would cost a fortune) and has also proven that the EU will push for further integration into a superstate as strings attached to Covid-19 relief funds.
 
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mat said:
Lock this post down and spam me with it when it happens because I'll deserve it.

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Both the UK and Eurozone are knackered from Covid-19, it’s within their interests and I feel China will become an enemy to the West, somewhat, in the near future.
 
mcfc1632 said:
The section of Barnier's comments I posted earlier explains it well

They simply cannot suffer the UK to be a genuinely independent nation free of the EU's controls just off their shores.

Their preference is to lock us into their controls - Remainers were gifting them that - if not go full on competition and seek to do damage in the hope we will return

That is why I do not believe that we will get a deal - so we should fuck off any extension and move on

Really quite simple when you get your head from up the EU's arse
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Who had whose head up whose arse when they said we'd still be in a free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian bordeqr?

You can't get away from it.
 
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BlueAnorak said:
Are you suprised? I'm not.
As a nation if the UK wanted to Remain we'd be remaining.
Covid-19 has knocked the possibility of independence for Scotland well into the future (it would cost a fortune) and has also proven that the EU will push for further integration into a superstate as strings attached to Covid-19 funds.
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So fucking obvious - why have Remainers not been queuing up to apologise for their lack of understanding???
 
Vic said:
Tell mcfc1632. He's moved from expecting the government to play stupid as a lever to getting a deal to not wanting a deal.
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I don’t need to tell anyone anything.

It’s my opinion based on an uninformed view out of faith.

As everyone on this board’s is.
 
mat said:
Celebrate your victory chaps.

GDP up the shitter and a no-deal Brexit is a superb win for JRM and other disaster capitalists. Drink it in...
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Let's take the pain now and get on with the recovery.

You Remainers have never understood the details and damage of EU membership - IMO - and some of you (not aimed at you) are not honest enough to try and accept the very obvious facts now
 
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