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I think we've been distracted a bit. Next year the government will allow in 10,000 seasonal agricultural workers from the EU. We're used to having 80,000.

Simply, the crops won't be planted if there is no certainty of getting them out of the ground.
 
Or on less favourable terms than immigrants from countries where there is a clause in a trade deal providing easier immigration to the UK.

We don’t “know” that yet though. All we need is some British optimism, grit and determination and we will get the best trade deals in the world.

We can’t comment on trade deals that haven’t been agreed yet.

Let’s see where we are this time next year.
 
We don’t “know” that yet though. All we need is some British optimism, grit and determination and we will get the best trade deals in the world.

We can’t comment on trade deals that haven’t been agreed yet.

Let’s see where we are this time next year.
Don’t forget the oomph.
 
What about this brave new world of not differentiating between immigrants from any country in the world that the Brexiteers keep parping on about? Oh yes, it’s never been like that and it never will - with or without the EU.

Thats just a beard set out by the arch Brexiteers at the top who hope to make loads £££££'s on the back of Brexit - they don't give a shit about migrant workers, German cars or cheaper shoes - they want to be a tax haven and attract dodgy money that they can dip their bread into the yolk - they just sold it to the masses as economic injustice and exploitation and sovereignty and they are good salesmen.
 
I’m puzzled now. I’m sure you were one of the posters who criticised us for being discriminatory against non-Europeans, and now you’re encouraging them to come to a deal with us so that we can discriminate in their favour? Which is it?
Neither, I'm just eager for a deal to give them equal rights - not special ones.
 
Neither, I'm just eager for a deal to give them equal rights - not special ones.

Hmmmmm...... so in the EU then EU citizens had equal rights. Non - EU citizens coming to the EU had rights protected by UK and EU law. Certain things we chose not to enforce in terms of entry rights such as limiting EU citizen numbers entering the UK. The direction of travel under Patel is moving away from equal rights for non-EU migrants - the Windrush generation debacle shows we didn't grant the Commonwealth citizens the rights we implied they had. Equal rights were already there, enforceable or within our gift but we haven't acted accordingly. What is it you want again and how does leaving the EU "fix" the equal rights issue?
 
The seasonal workers scheme is not limited to EU workers. But 99% of those on it are from the EU. Do those who really think the EU is discriminatory (not that I believe that that's always been an issue for more than a very small number of Leavers) think that Africans are going to fly here for a few months work as readily as someone from Romania?
 
The seasonal workers scheme is not limited to EU workers. But 99% of those on it are from the EU. Do those who really think the EU is discriminatory (not that I believe that that's always been an issue for more than a very small number of Leavers) think that Africans are going to fly here for a few months work as readily as someone from Romania?

Their whole belief system depends on this and the fact they will be attracted by pay rates of £25 per hour - could put that on the side of a bus I suppose
 
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