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Why a democrat isn’t president right now is a very different question than why Donald Trump specifically is the president. The “voting system bollocks” is certain part of both though, given that 3 million more people voted for Hillary Clinton in the last election. I could spend the next hour writing an actual detailed answer but something tells me that wouldn’t be worth the time.So explain why a Democratic isn't president right now? And don't give me your voting system bollocks as that's only a partial answer.
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Why a democrat isn’t president right now is a very different question than why Donald Trump specifically is the president. The “voting system bollocks” is certain part of both though, give that 3 million more people voted for Hillary Clinton in the last election. I could spend the next hour writing an actual detailed answer but something tells me that wouldn’t be worth the time.
Nice to know you haven't disagreed.
To be extremely clear, I disagree with 99% of the things you write on here and 100% of whatever that was.Nice to know you haven't disagreed.
Yes everyone else is a dumb fucker and you’re in the know. Super.
My tagging of you wasn’t to start an argument (which was probably naive of me given your penchant for truculence), but to let you see that thinking “Trump or Biden winning ends with the same result” is idiotic. It doesn’t mean that at all. The two events aren’t remotely similar.
He just seems to not have any bearing at all on what each party does or stands for.
He complains the democrats do nothing for the working class, which is amazing, because last I checked, all these bills to give working class people affordable healthcare, decent wages and otherwise protect them aren't being blocked by the Democrats but the Republicans.
2019 Medicare for all act - which would save 66,000 lives a year and save 400Bn. Proposed by democrats, blocked by republicans.
2019 Raise the Wage Act - Raise the minimum wage to 15 bucks. Proposed by democrats, blocked by republicans.
Renewing the Violence against women act - blocked by the republicans.
Paycheck fairness act - closes loopholes in the Equality pay act of 1963.
Only a Trump supporter would be stupid enough to claim the Democrats treat the working class the same as Republicans.
Bigga
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To be extremely clear, I disagree with 99% of the things you write on here and 100% of whatever that was.
It's not what your original reply said.
A childish second reply, though.
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I’ve not said a single thing that wasn’t factual.You don't like facts, like many.
I can see that on this thread.
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He just seems to not have any bearing at all on what each party does or stands for.
He complains the democrats do nothing for the working class, which is amazing, because last I checked, all these bills to give working class people affordable healthcare, decent wages and otherwise protect them aren't being blocked by the Democrats but the Republicans.
2019 Medicare for all act - which would save 66,000 lives a year and save 400Bn. Proposed by democrats, blocked by republicans.
2019 Raise the Wage Act - Raise the minimum wage to 15 bucks. Proposed by democrats, blocked by republicans.
Renewing the Violence against women act - blocked by the republicans.
Paycheck fairness act - closes loopholes in the Equality pay act of 1963.
Only a Trump supporter would be stupid enough to claim the Democrats treat the working class the same as Republicans.
You can be man enough to address it to me.
Even Foggy has stopped the weak arsed "he" business.
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I’ve not said a single thing that wasn’t factual.
Neither have I.
Which you don't ever address.
How is it anyone else's culpability that Trump loads the courts with his own, hand picked, sycophants?
200 of them at that.
You've got to understand that @Bigga's life mantra is that anyone not called Bernie Sanders is Trump.
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Because I’m not remotely interested in a sixth form political debate based on hypotheticals. That time is over right now.Neither have I.
Which you don't ever address.
Now is a straight choice between two candidates.
A very simple question, do you think that progressive policies that benefit the disenfranchised minorities and working class have a greater chance of being enacted into law over the next decade with Trump or Biden winning the election in November?
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But they [every administration] are all the same.
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How is it anyone else's culpability that Trump loads the courts with his own, hand picked, sycophants?
200 of them at that.
Cos if the pathway was created for him enter the fray, you have ask what happened to get him in to create the madness.
You don’t even have to look at hypothetical healthcare laws. The passage of Obamacare is the clearest difference. A law which, while not perfect, extended coverage to millions of uninsured Americans has been fought against tooth and nail before, during, and in the ten years since passage, by Republicans. The reason for medical bankruptcies, no insurance, and under insurance in this country is solely down to Republican opposition. Even right now, lawyers representing the Trump administration are working a lawsuit through the courts to repeal it. Absolutely clear as day.He just seems to not have any bearing at all on what each party does or stands for.
He complains the democrats do nothing for the working class, which is amazing, because last I checked, all these bills to give working class people affordable healthcare, decent wages and otherwise protect them aren't being blocked by the Democrats but the Republicans.
2019 Medicare for all act - which would save 66,000 lives a year and save 400Bn. Proposed by democrats, blocked by republicans.
2019 Raise the Wage Act - Raise the minimum wage to 15 bucks. Proposed by democrats, blocked by republicans.
Renewing the Violence against women act - blocked by the republicans.
Paycheck fairness act - closes loopholes in the Equality pay act of 1963.
Only a Trump supporter would be stupid enough to claim the Democrats treat the working class the same as Republicans.
But they [every administration] are all the same.
Yeah but did you see the bit where both Republicans and Democrats obstructed his testimony by tapping their pens on their microphones so no one could hear him?
Oh wait, no, only Republicans tried to obstruct like that.
Bigga
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Because I’m not remotely interested in a sixth form political debate based on hypotheticals. That time is over right now.
Now is a straight choice between two candidates.
A very simple question, do you think that progressive policies that benefit the disenfranchised minorities and working class have a greater chance of being enacted into law over the next decade with Trump or Biden winning the election in November?
I've already stated I hope Biden wins the debates and election as Progressives are starting to oust the neolib Dems in the down ballots. Schumer next year and then get fucking Perez and Pelosi out.
None of this changes a thing about the beaten pathway to this point, even if you do your best to avoid it.
Because I’m not remotely interested in a sixth form political debate based on hypotheticals. That time is over right now.
Now is a straight choice between two candidates.
A very simple question, do you think that progressive policies that benefit the disenfranchised minorities and working class have a greater chance of being enacted into law over the next decade with Trump or Biden winning the election in November?
Trump a progressive... 2020 keeps on giving.
Well not Joe BidenCos if the pathway was created for him enter the fray, you have ask what happened to get him in to create the madness.
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