Bluemoon Angling Thread

Are the canoeists the same or has it been stopped?

Very few this year but saw the "wild swimmers" and a couple of very, very attractive young ladies doing that thing where you stand on surfboards and paddle.

Oddly, for an old curmudgeon like me, I quite like the canoeists. Firstly, I have a soft spot for young people in general and secondly, I have never found them to have an adverse effect on the fishing. I've had barbel from right underneath them while they sit and watch and marvel. But then I've always been one for an audience.

I have a great photo, taken by a mate, of me fishing whilst a lad has fallen out of a canoe and is floundering around in my swim whilst his companion hovers around offering encouragement. I think the poor lad was mentally handicapped because the water was only about 18 inches deep.
 
Just been for a look on the Wye. Bloody awful colour! It's getting worse every summer.
Crap from the chicken farms upstream giving higher phosphate levels over the last 6 years than ever recorded before, I am told.
Just another nail in the silver tourists coffin. :(

There was an article in the Sunday Times last week highlighting the problem.
 
Very few this year but saw the "wild swimmers" and a couple of very, very attractive young ladies doing that thing where you stand on surfboards and paddle.

Oddly, for an old curmudgeon like me, I quite like the canoeists. Firstly, I have a soft spot for young people in general and secondly, I have never found them to have an adverse effect on the fishing. I've had barbel from right underneath them while they sit and watch and marvel. But then I've always been one for an audience.

I have a great photo, taken by a mate, of me fishing whilst a lad has fallen out of a canoe and is floundering around in my swim whilst his companion hovers around offering encouragement. I think the poor lad was mentally handicapped because the water was only about 18 inches deep.
I don't mind canooists and other boaters in general as long as they have etiquette on a river in not ploughing through my swim whilst fishing. Most are polite and courteous TBF, but one or two are snobbish and look down their noses.

I remember fishing Rudyard lake years ago. Sat there fishing and minding my own business. All of a sudden a yacht came in 10 yards Infront of me before performing an 180% turn... "Excuse me pal I'm fishing"..... "Sorry, didn't see you"...... "Ok, no problem"... A few minutes later I heard the boom clattering - "Starboard turn" (in plummy voice) ..... "Excuse me, I'm fishing, already said I was!". Only this time I wasn't as friendly..."oh, sorry"(smug grin as he said it) They sailed off and I thought that was that.

I was ledgering and needed to make up another groundbait mix full of maggots and casters to catapult about 40 yards into the swim. I was using a floating buoy as a distance marker to catapult to.

All of a sudden 'matey buoy' and his posh woman came towards me to perform another fancy turn but this time the wind dropped to dead calm. Both were fannying about trashing my swim so I launched half a dozen orange sized balls at the main sail covering them in groundbait goo! She started screaming he asked me - "why did you do that"?..... "I asked you nicely twice and you decided to take the piss, now fuck off up the other end of the lake"!

I didn't see them again: )
 
I don't mind canooists and other boaters in general as long as they have etiquette on a river in not ploughing through my swim whilst fishing. Most are polite and courteous TBF, but one or two are snobbish and look down their noses.

I remember fishing Rudyard lake years ago. Sat there fishing and minding my own business. All of a sudden a yacht came in 10 yards Infront of me before performing an 180% turn... "Excuse me pal I'm fishing"..... "Sorry, didn't see you"...... "Ok, no problem"... A few minutes later I heard the boom clattering - "Starboard turn" (in plummy voice) ..... "Excuse me, I'm fishing, already said I was!". Only this time I wasn't as friendly..."oh, sorry"(smug grin as he said it) They sailed off and I thought that was that.

I was ledgering and needed to make up another groundbait mix full of maggots and casters to catapult about 40 yards into the swim. I was using a floating buoy as a distance marker to catapult to.

All of a sudden 'matey buoy' and his posh woman came towards me to perform another fancy turn but this time the wind dropped to dead calm. Both were fannying about trashing my swim so I launched half a dozen orange sized balls at the main sail covering them in groundbait goo! She started screaming he asked me - "why did you do that"?..... "I asked you nicely twice and you decided to take the piss, now fuck off up the other end of the lake"!

I didn't see them again: )
Good job mate. You should have had a maggopult too that would have knocked the smug smile off his visage and given his boat a nice infestation of bluebottles.
 
I have never caught a salmon within an hour of seeing a canoe.
I have seen over 50 canoes in one day on the Wye.
Half have not got a clue what they are doing.
I pay over £80 a year to the EA just to be on the water. They pay nothing.
 
Good job mate. You should have had a maggopult too that would have knocked the smug smile off his visage and given his boat a nice infestation of bluebottles.
Didn't need a maggot pult mate. I clearly remember them(her) in blind panic screaming trying to empty maggots casters and sloppy groundbait out of their cagoule hoods. I found it highly amusing; )
 
I have never caught a salmon within an hour of seeing a canoe.
I have seen over 50 canoes in one day on the Wye.
Half have not got a clue what they are doing.
I pay over £80 a year to the EA just to be on the water. They pay nothing.
I think you need wear a face mask mate. Not for social distancing. So salmon(and canooists) can't see your fugly mug ; )
 
Paying to use a river, either fishing or floating is a bullshit concept
Maybe a bullshit concept for you in Idaho mate as there's obviously no licence needed. Snorky gets a proper strop on though. Can't say I blame him when noisy idiots with zero respect come sailing past whilst he's in the water in chest waders casting a line. It's not as though they can't see an angler fishing in the water. Mostly different for me as I'm often bank fishing the inside of a bend casting a feeder towards a channel 2/3s across or so across river. Next time I fish the Wye I'll be in my waders stickfloat fishing. I pity any silly canooist twats that try and take the piss out of snorky and I (the Krayfish twins). They'll be getting wet if they do.
 
Maybe a bullshit concept for you in Idaho mate as there's obviously no licence needed. Snorky gets a proper strop on though. Can't say I blame him when noisy idiots with zero respect come sailing past whilst he's in the water in chest waders casting a line. It's not as though they can't see an angler fishing in the water. Mostly different for me as I'm often bank fishing the inside of a bend casting a feeder towards a channel 2/3s across or so across river. Next time I fish the Wye I'll be in my waders stickfloat fishing. I pity any silly twats that try and take the piss out of snorky and I (the Krayfish twins). They'll be getting wet if they do.
Golden shower?
I buy a fishing license every year for about $20, that lets me fish the entire State. Also I love to float a river in a kayak, canoe or raft, often fishing at the same time. I can float any river at any time regardless if it is going through private property or not, so I see both sides
 
Golden shower?
I buy a fishing license every year for about $20, that lets me fish the entire State. Also I love to float a river in a kayak, canoe or raft, often fishing at the same time. I can float any river at any time regardless if it is going through private property or not, so I see both sides
Trust you to suggest a golden shower ya wrong un. Not a bad eye deer though mate; )

Have you (or anyone on here) tried fishing out of one of those float tube thingies? Seem to recall they were invented in the early 80s Iirc. The inventer used a kind of truck inner tube and made a seat. Looked dangerous to me, especially if a sharp hook caught it.
 
Trust you to suggest a golden shower ya wrong un. Not a bad eye deer though mate; )

Have you (or anyone on here) tried fishing out of one of those float tube thingies? Seem to recall they were invented in the early 80s Iirc. The inventer used a kind of truck inner tube and made a seat. Looked dangerous to me, especially if a sharp hook caught it.
Yeah, they're ok, prefer sitting in a boat...more room for the beer cooler
 
Trust you to suggest a golden shower ya wrong un. Not a bad eye deer though mate; )

Have you (or anyone on here) tried fishing out of one of those float tube thingies? Seem to recall they were invented in the early 80s Iirc. The inventer used a kind of truck inner tube and made a seat. Looked dangerous to me, especially if a sharp hook caught it.
I have done it a few times. They are pretty good and gives you far more control than a boat. You can stay on a pod of fish a great deal easier just by using your flippers! Getting a bit long in the tooth for it nowadays though.
 
There's a small lake just 20 miles south of us. Fished it just a few times before and not had much success, so tend to forget it's there. It's rather secluded, surrounded by high banks and thick forrest so not feasible to bank fish. The access is narrow and on a small creek which you have to paddle a ways to get to the open water. Upside is no larger boats will mess with it, so only ever seen canoes or kayaks. Plus with no decent place to get out there's no swimmers or people just playing on the water.

Went out there first light Tuesday morning. We took out at noon. Saw lots of wildlife, caught a limit of fish and the only guy we saw was waiting to put in as we were taking out. Perfect trip out.
 
They call me "Four Rivers" Noggs after fishing 4 different rivers in 9 days.

Friday was the River Severn near Shrewsbury. My mate was barbel fishing whilst I was doing my usual bit-bashing on the feeder catching dace and small chub on every cast. I work on the basis that, if you feed long enough, sooner or later a decent fish will show up which it did but not in the way I expected. I was reeling in another small dace when I saw what I thought was a jack pike flash at it but turn away just before I lifted it out. As it happened, the dace dropped off the hook and fell back in the water at the side. Just there was a ledge with water about 4 inches deep which the dace proceeded to swim along parallel to the bank. Odd behaviour. Then I noticed it was being shadowed by a large perch about a pound and a half. No wonder it wouldn't come off the shelf. I thought, "hello, I'll have a dabble at that". So I dropped my feeder in at the side baited with double maggot. Within 2 minutes, my rod pulled over and, after about a great fight I landed a 3lbs perch, an easy personal best. Later on, as the sun dropped, the barbel started feeding and we had 2 each. Smaller than the Wye barbel but better fighters pound for pound I think. Oh yes, heard another cuckoo.

Saturday was fly-fishing (or, in my case, thrashing the water fruitlessly) on the Hodder on the Duchy of Lancaster estate. Dramatic setting for a day of dramatic weather. Started late with storms threatening over the hills. My mate got a nice brownie and a couple of large greyling whilst I had a salmon (parr of 4 ozs) but it was a race against time with the river obviously about to rise.

Sensibly we left the tea stuff in the fisherman's hut and stayed close so we were able to make a dash for it when the first drops began to fall. So we spent a wonderful 30 minutes sitting in a tiny hut drinking tea and eating our sandwiches whilst the storm raged around us. As it eased, my mate reckoned we had 30 minutes before the water turned brown and changed to his sea-trout gear. As it happens, he was right but he managed to catch one before the river became unfishable. Wonderful day though with kingfishers, dippers, hares and sundry wildlife but not a single human other than us. So here's a moral dilemma for you.

As we were going up river we came across a gull lying amongst the rocks at the water's edge. It was alert but, clearly unable to move for some reason. Obviously, as we came back downstream the water was rising and the gull was sitting there unmoving with the water rising around it. What, if anything, would you do about it ?
 
They call me "Four Rivers" Noggs after fishing 4 different rivers in 9 days.

Friday was the River Severn near Shrewsbury. My mate was barbel fishing whilst I was doing my usual bit-bashing on the feeder catching dace and small chub on every cast. I work on the basis that, if you feed long enough, sooner or later a decent fish will show up which it did but not in the way I expected. I was reeling in another small dace when I saw what I thought was a jack pike flash at it but turn away just before I lifted it out. As it happened, the dace dropped off the hook and fell back in the water at the side. Just there was a ledge with water about 4 inches deep which the dace proceeded to swim along parallel to the bank. Odd behaviour. Then I noticed it was being shadowed by a large perch about a pound and a half. No wonder it wouldn't come off the shelf. I thought, "hello, I'll have a dabble at that". So I dropped my feeder in at the side baited with double maggot. Within 2 minutes, my rod pulled over and, after about a great fight I landed a 3lbs perch, an easy personal best. Later on, as the sun dropped, the barbel started feeding and we had 2 each. Smaller than the Wye barbel but better fighters pound for pound I think. Oh yes, heard another cuckoo.

Saturday was fly-fishing (or, in my case, thrashing the water fruitlessly) on the Hodder on the Duchy of Lancaster estate. Dramatic setting for a day of dramatic weather. Started late with storms threatening over the hills. My mate got a nice brownie and a couple of large greyling whilst I had a salmon (parr of 4 ozs) but it was a race against time with the river obviously about to rise.

Sensibly we left the tea stuff in the fisherman's hut and stayed close so we were able to make a dash for it when the first drops began to fall. So we spent a wonderful 30 minutes sitting in a tiny hut drinking tea and eating our sandwiches whilst the storm raged around us. As it eased, my mate reckoned we had 30 minutes before the water turned brown and changed to his sea-trout gear. As it happens, he was right but he managed to catch one before the river became unfishable. Wonderful day though with kingfishers, dippers, hares and sundry wildlife but not a single human other than us. So here's a moral dilemma for you.

As we were going up river we came across a gull lying amongst the rocks at the water's edge. It was alert but, clearly unable to move for some reason. Obviously, as we came back downstream the water was rising and the gull was sitting there unmoving with the water rising around it. What, if anything, would you do about it ?
Give it a snorkel?
Good paste mate. Congratulations on your perch. I fished the hodder some years ago on the Inn at Whitwell stretch. Lovely bit of river.
 
Gladhouse yesterday. We had been warned it was fishing very tough and so it proved. In between monsoon conditions we tried all methods known to man. The water was like a warm bath so we reckoned fish down deep - this reservoir has depths down to 80 feet. On went the Di7 and we thrashed the water with what casts like a lead cosh. We fished mid water, we fished floaters. I had one touch and my boat partner had one on and lost it. Of the 10 anglers 3 fish caught in total. After the monsoon turned into a deluge we binned it early. I agreed with my mate, between the weather, the soaking to the skin and the lack of any type of fish interest it was certainly 'our least favourite outing of the season'.

Thats why its called fishing and not catching.
 

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