UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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omcfc said:
My hunch is that they're going to screw us.
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Ultimately, if CAS find us guilty and we end up with any form of ban, we do have to accept that we have screwed ourselves.

We’ve said all along that we have irrefutable evidence though and I’ve no reason to doubt that yet or think that trust is misplaced.
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
If I was on a jury and someone on trial was in our situation, I’d want either a credible explanation for those emails and/or evidence of what we actually did. A “prove it” defence wouldn’t cut any ice with me, and my gut says it wouldn’t have cut any ice with CAS either. We’d look guilty by omission in my opinion. But I’m not a lawyer and have no real idea what CAS will/will not accept
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There isn't a jury at CAS so I don't think "guilty by omission" comes into it. And I think the arbiters might probe the point a bit, especially if City's audited accounts and corroborative documents paint a quite different picture. The emails would not be treated as convincing evidence in the face of more "authoritative" evidence which was supported. I remember years ago, and admittedly only in small claims, a case concerned with an overpayment where the employer claimed the severance details had been settled over the phone, a letter sent out to confirm them and then in error an overpayment made. They wanted the overpayment repaid. The client claimed what had been agreed over the phone was what was actually paid, that he had never seen the letter before in his life (it had not been submitted in the bundle of papers before the hearing) and that he was entitled to every penny. The magistrate questioned very closely on who had agreed the deal and why he was not called to appear and why no steps had been taken to ensure that the letter had actually been delivered. In the course of the hearing he made some caustic comments about the presentation of the case which were a fairly clear sign to me that I was certainly not going to lose and in the event he found for my client. I suspect CAS is a long way removed from that but it does show that assumptions, either that 3 months in lieu are all you can get (or in this case City's guilt is self-evident) or that ideas such as "guilt by omission" will not weigh the balance of probabilities in your favour. I think that if its City's accounts + documents v unsupported emails City's lawyers will have enjoyed themselves.
 
55yr old teenager said:
I feel exactly the same. I have read every single post on this thread. I have been persuaded we are going to win by some posts and persuaded we are going to lose by other posts. My gut feeling is the bastards will find some way to fuck us over. Truly hope I am wrong.
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If CAS look at our "irrefutable" and rule against us, despite what the conspiracy merchants think, I believe we have been caught red handed.

Not that I believe they will, I am still confident and the feeling from within the club seems relaxed.
 
OB1 said:
On a serious note, creative accounting is very wrong if it breaks the law or GAAP. Applying rules and principles in the most favourable manner allowed is another matter.
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The latter is my definition of creative accountancy.
 
Given that...

1. City said they knew UEFA would charge us and that all they ever wanted was CAS to rule on the charges and....

2. Projectriver says that once the hearing is complete the barristers know, with almost certainty, the outcome and....

3. Tolmie says that City are virtually skipping down the corridors at CFG....


Then for any of us to be confident of anything but a victory means you don’t believe one or more of the above. Interested to know which it is.

This business that CAS will look to side with UEFA because they will do anything to screw us is crazy. G14 absolutely would but if CAS find us guilty then we probably are but there isn’t much pointing to a defeat unless THD is completely mis-reading the signs of confidence in City after the hearing and I don’t think he is because if it was in the balance Pep would not be raising it every opportunity he gets whether he is asked or not.

At this point I’m looking forward to the verdict..not nervous at all.
 
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