Wake up. Check bluemoon, still stressed about the verdict. Anything new to add to Cheesys Twitter thing yesterday? Start at the end. Posters falling out with each other as usual. Go back pages try and find something new, hopefully from posters I have trust in. But there's pages and pages so give up after a few. So going to miss the odd bit of relevant information despite not having a goldfish's memory.I've already posted this but clearly people don't read further back or have the memory of goldfishes. The parties will have been told the preliminary decision a few days ago, at the latest. They then have an opportunity to alert CAS to any fundamental errors in the judgement. Assuming there are none, the decision is then formalised and signed off.
I think (although I don't know for sure) that the parties may have been notified of the decision as long as 2 weeks ago. There is no doubt however that the club and UEFA know the outcome that will be announced on Monday. And it's no coincidence that the news started to come out yesterday afternoon once CAS had shut for the weekend.
Has anyone thought that our whole legal and PR strategy has been to maintain our innonence throughout, no matter the outcome, to ensure that they keep us onside as a fan base?
Soriano said the evidence is irrefutable, Pep has said he's seen it and believes we're innocent, etc. And fans will always have a bias to go along with their word and ignore outside opinion - even if found guilty. Let's face it, blue tinted specs do exist.
But maybe they've known we're guilty all along but have always been looking at the long game. The legal costs are a drop in the ocean anyway.
It sounds a bit crazy as it's a very bold approach, but ultimately, politicians do it all the time and the world goes on. Our club needs us to back it - which I'm sure most will regardless - and we'd move past the ban if it gets upheld and continue to support the owners.
I hope this theory is complete crap but it's not out of the realms of possibility and just throwing it out there.
Unfortunately that was always going to be the case Ian. Just don't fret it.I occasionally do a search on here to see if anyone has mentioned me in a post.
This thread has become a fucking nightmare.
Is the correct answer.this theory is complete crap
Only once have I ever been offered leaked information, from somebody inside the club, and that was when the doorman outside the Directors Suite confided, just an hour before the announcement of Brian Horton as the new City Manager,, at the Friday night game v Coventry.
"Don't quote me, but it's Gerry Francis"
Sebastian might as well be Lord farqua where I’m from (:
5 year ban incoming lolPeps demeanour and the fact he's been allowed time and again to say he's very confident right up to yesterday... No leaks or even inklings from the media... Cheesy's tweet.... the fact that mysteriously reports have emerged that KDB is staying even if we lose (he knows we've won and is now saying he'll defo stay if we lose knowing he doesn't have to back that up).... The absolute deafening silence from UEFA...
These all tell me we've won
I suspect that was the club throwing a bone to Blackburn and Gaughan because we wouldn't confirm the line from Ian Cheeseman. Those two reporters would have been under huge pressure last night to deliver on this story. I took the KDB story as a positive.What worries me and I hope this me over thinking is that last night the club briefed 2 city journalists (Blackburn and gauguan) that whatever the outcome of the appeal Kdb is open to staying.
That is no doubt fantastic news, I can’t help but feel it is a bit of damage control from the club. You just know if we do get the ban the media, fans of other clubs will be saying kdb is off blah blah blah.
just a thought.
I occasionally do a search on here to see if anyone has mentioned me in a post.
This thread has become a fucking nightmare.
It's worth noting that the Prem/Cup wins last year were never mentioned without the ban and regularly the ban was the lead story and narrative while we were actually lifting cups.Wall of silence from the media is telling, and goes to show that the underlying hatred and racism against our club and our owners when the initial public trial was ongoing and punishment given was evident in all the pleasure they took in reporting it.
That hatred and racism levelled towards our owners is still present, at the minute it is subdued because the leaks that occurred last time are not in place.
Those that leaked the info when this all began, were executing their plan in the public domain via their media connections are now blind and that is a good thing. This shows how UEFA is infested with certain vested interests from cartel mafia clubs.
It will be interesting to see how the media deal with all this in their Sunday articles, the wall of silence will be tested as those that want to see us punished - regardless of our club saying we have evidence to show no guilt - will put some anti-City pieces out as a last chance in the event should the CAS rule in our favour.
Those that are still blind enough to still read the press media and believe a narrative that serves a certain purpose, will no doubt jump on the saying that City have bought their way out of the sanction, that is something which is not new to us City fans as we have heard it all before.
However, should the CAS devision exonerate our Club and owners it will be very interesting to see what the media report and what tone their articles have.
Should we be cleared, City will need to be stronger against those that want to slander our name in the media.
Whether we then start to play hardball against certain clubs that have tried to damage us in all this saga will remain to be seen.
Fingers crossed now for Monday morning, we will all be trying to log onto the CAS website at the exact time along with those that want to the decision to go against us.
I don't have anything against Ian or "Ultras" but I do know that being so passionate about something can impair your judgement. Like I said earlier, I'm not saying he's wrong necessarily but for now I'm attaching little weight to his comments in the complete absence of any qualifying remarks or news anywhere else.
You've set yourself up now - what have these "well-connected with City" people had to say? If Ian’s post is more than guesswork then how is it the case that we "may or may not be exonerated". I think it's been obvious since the start that we may or may not be exonerated.
It's worth noting that the Prem/Cup wins last year were never mentioned without the ban and regularly the ban was the lead story and narrative while we were actually lifting cups.
I don't expect our 'getting off' to make the nation news headlines certainly not to the extent of our ban was covered back in May '19.
That's good news because I think all of us deserve to see the "irrefutable evidence." If it is not published our enemies in the media will continue to claim there has been a "cover-up" and we have something to hide. If the full judgement is not published then I hope we do a press briefing to nail the media lies once and for all.Not one significant UEFA CAS FFP judgment has been suppressed. All public.
Totally agree , he didn't need to do it. Done more harm than good.The last paragraph is guesswork, yes, but the point I was making is that such guesswork is no less valid than a tweet saying "sounding like", "from what I'm hearing", and "nothing confirmed yet". It's almost as bad as "sources say". Most noticeably he has given himself a get-out clause in case it is wrong. Why should we attach any weight to it at the moment?
Secondly, you're a sensitive soul if you think I'm trying to "stick the knife in". Perhaps you should quote me properly and include the bit where I say "relative". I wouldn't even call it "excessive" to say that his acrimonious departure from the BBC and now from City (not necessarily acrimoniously) represents a relative fall from grace.
Lastly, I disagree with the notion that he doesn't need to qualify his remarks further. People are rightly anxious about our fate over what is the most important issue the club has faced in recent times. This isn't just some harmless transfer speculation. If he's going to make himself the only person in the world who publicly comes out with knowledge of our fate then he needs to offer more.
A rag on the caf says Cheesy and Txixi drink together in his local. Probably bullshit.Think you are wrong about his connections at the top table.