I see enough incompetence in enough different games, ie the shoulder goal today, to know if it’s corruption then its a very complicated one, because I can’t work out who paying who for what. Probably isn’t a fan in the league that can’t point out some unfathomable decisions against them.Don’t confuse incompetence for corruption
Iirc, the para says "may" inform the parties etc. In complex or important cases, they will exercise that admitedly discretionary power for sure.where does it state that in the rules or where was it quoted ?. Because I can't find it in the cas online documents.
Don’t confuse incompetence for corruption
I don't know for sure but I think City settled the initial alleged breach without conceding guilt. Technically yes but evidentially, not so much. None of us know enough details, though, in terms of the gravity of the alleged offence and what penalties have been dished out to other clubs in the past. Plus, I seem to think City are saying the new rules were applied retrospectively.The point is “CAS has to show reservation or restraint in evaluating whether a sanction is appropriate; the measure of the sanction imposed by a disciplinary body in the exercise of the discretion allowed by the relevant rule can be reviewed only when the sanction is evidently and grossly disproportionate to the offence” https://jurisprudence.tas-cas.org/Shared Documents/3944.pdf
If City are found to have breached again after a settlement there is no realistic prospect CAS will interfere. Especially not for such serious allegations.
You can take the man out of Prestwich...pretty sure @Prestwich_Blue doesn’t even live in Prestwich anymore. Think he sold up a few years ago
Wankathons ? ;-)Was that Single Sex parties?
I think if they win tomorrow they will go off into the sunset gloating,i don't see why they would negotiate with us,they will have done the bidding of the big clubs and tebas etc,looks like from our early statement that we would take it further if we lostIf CAS rule against us then I’m fully willing to accept our guilt. All I ever asked for was a fair hearing, maybe next steps if CAS uphold the ban would maybe be to negotiate a reduction of the punishment with UEFA ?
There has been epic bickering and a lot of heat but not much light. Let's hope we'll be laughing about today's thread come the morning.Can anyone give me a quick update? Is it certain that City knows the verdict by now?
I think close relatives are invited you’d have to ask @brooklandsblue2.0Was that Single Sex parties?
I think we’d have a right to appeal the punishment, it may seem cheeky but still worth a shot. I don’t think Uefa would be too petty about it.I think if they win tomorrow they will go off into the sunset gloating,i don't see why they would negotiate with us,they will have done the bidding of the big clubs and tebas etc,looks like from our early statement that we would take it further if we lost
Tell that to @brooklandsblue2.0enough now lets all settle down and wait till 0930 tomorrow
There's so much old money, the reputation of UEFA and potentially seismic fallout for the future of FFP that I just can't see us 'winning'.
I think if they win tomorrow they will go off into the sunset gloating,i don't see why they would negotiate with us,they will have done the bidding of the big clubs and tebas etc,looks like from our early statement that we would take it further if we lost
I don't know for sure but I think City settled the initial alleged breach without conceding guilt. Technically yes but evidentially, not so much. None of us know enough details, though, in terms of the gravity of the alleged offence and what penalties have been dished out to other clubs in the past. Plus, I seem to think City are saying the new rules were applied retrospectively.
I'm afraid to say that I believe football is corrupt at just about every level and while I am not suggesting that the CAS panel are susceptible to corruption, I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility that pressure may have been brought to bear.
In cases like this, as with most of life, money wins.
For what it's worth, I think we are guilty of at best bending the rules, at worst breaking them. If we do 'win' it will be on a point of procedure, not the fact that we are innocent.
How are you doing lovely ?I think we’d have a right to appeal the punishment, it may seem cheeky but still worth a shot. I don’t think Uefa would be too petty about it.
I don’t see why we couldn’t negotiate with UEFA to reduce ? At the end of the day we still need to work with them and have a good relationship going forwardI don’t understand if there are any avenues of redress after this? Anyway still trust the club have this all covered.