mosssideblue
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CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)
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Is there anything in the CAS judgement which could open us up to punishment from the PL? Or does the fact that the CAS release say that City "did not disguise equity funding as state contributions" mean we're in the clear?
Thing with the premier rules is who runs the premier and who has people in key areas to push what narrative they want.
Blue Hefner
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Is there anything in the CAS judgement which could open us up to punishment from the PL? Or does the fact that the CAS release say that City "did not disguise equity funding as state contributions" mean we're in the clear?
I’d have thought so. CAS didn’t say City had done it but regrettably it’s time-barred. They said City didn’t do it - that said, we’ll have to wait for the full written judgement
I’m as pleased as shit with the outcome. But let’s not forget a big reason is that the clock ran down on some offences so the club has to learn from and avoid those mistakes.
EDITED to add. I think the whole FFP was a Pulling The Ladder Up exercise by Old Money and should be abolished.
EDITED to add. I think the whole FFP was a Pulling The Ladder Up exercise by Old Money and should be abolished.
TheRemainsOfTheDave
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Bring it on.Is there anything in the CAS judgement which could open us up to punishment from the PL? Or does the fact that the CAS release say that City "did not disguise equity funding as state contributions" mean we're in the clear?
Think it would end up at CAS myself if it's based on anything related to the case just upheld.
BamberBridgeBlue
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Every fibre of my being didn’t have the balls to run. The state of my bank balance used to overcome this primal fear though.I seem to remember from my Gorton days that the saying originates from leaving a curry house without paying. (but i could be wrong!)
The discussion would be "are we doing a runner?", ie a disappearing act.
The signal would then be "Do one!"
This then transformed into a saying (when you wanting somebody to leave/go/disappear), you would say "do one mate".
Trouble is i never had the balls to do a runner. So i always ended up paying the whole bill!
decmancity
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Have to wait for the full case to be released but I think pretty much everyone is saying its unlikely. The PL have enough to do without wanting to take one of the biggest stakeholders in the league to court.Is there anything in the CAS judgement which could open us up to punishment from the PL? Or does the fact that the CAS release say that City "did not disguise equity funding as state contributions" mean we're in the clear?
Big Dave Watson
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Same here.Mate I accidentally opened CAS' original verdict from 2019 when we initially went to them. I thought we had lost for a good five minutes, finding out we actually won was euphoric haha.
I seem to remember from my Gorton days that the saying originates from leaving a curry house without paying. (but i could be wrong!)
The discussion would be "are we doing a runner?", ie a disappearing act.
The signal would then be "Do one!"
This then transformed into a saying (when you wanting somebody to leave/go/disappear), you would say "do one mate".
Trouble is i never had the balls to do a runner. So i always ended up paying the whole bill!
I did one many years ago and did not know that I had done it until next day at our Sunday League game when one of my mates told me that owner was looking for me.....I was that pissed I didnt remember getting up and just walking out ....Went back that afternoon and paid him with my last fiver (yes it was a while ago)....then got a sub off him so I could go out that night....happy days
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I’m as pleased as shit with the outcome. But let’s not forget a big reason is that the clock ran down on some offences so the club has to learn from and avoid those mistakes.
Our detractors will be desperately going through the award praying that it states that we would have been found guilty if there was no time ban.
I will enjoy the piss boiling though.
avoidconfusion
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blueinsa
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Going to be some right fucking tasty game when fans are finally allowed back over the next few season i think.
I’m as pleased as shit with the outcome. But let’s not forget a big reason is that the clock ran down on some offences so the club has to learn from and avoid those mistakes.
EDITED to add. I think the whole FFP was a Pulling The Ladder Up exercise by Old Money and should be abolished.
Well there were other charges that were not time barred and CAS ruled that there was no evidence that we had done anything wrong. That may very well have been the same for the incidents they were unable to rule on.
I’m as pleased as shit with the outcome. But let’s not forget a big reason is that the clock ran down on some offences so the club has to learn from and avoid those mistakes.
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What mistakes? You are assuming we were guilty of some offences that had time expired, protecting us.
The wording of the judgement isn't in full, so nobody knows the actual meaning yet.
They way i'm reading it, is that some of the "charges" were not valid. since they exceeded UEFA's own time rules. Therefore we had nothing to defend/answer to. That doesn't mean we were guilty of them etc.
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@karen7 is famous on RAWK:
“But the thing is, the bald one has to replace Silva, Fernandinho and Aguero, and find a centre half to fill Kompany’s boots. He might fool the Karen7’s of this world that Foden is the new Messi, but he needs big money to get in replacements. And without Champions league, he is going to need bigger wages to convince star players to sit at home watching CL on their 96” plasma screens”
“But the thing is, the bald one has to replace Silva, Fernandinho and Aguero, and find a centre half to fill Kompany’s boots. He might fool the Karen7’s of this world that Foden is the new Messi, but he needs big money to get in replacements. And without Champions league, he is going to need bigger wages to convince star players to sit at home watching CL on their 96” plasma screens”
Will be interesting to see the full ruling but my bottom line is that if our activities fall foul of a law rigged to stop challengers to Utd and their ilk and we ‘got away with it’ then good on us.Well there were other charges that were not time barred and CAS ruled that there was no evidence that we had done anything wrong. That may very well have been the same for the incidents they were unable to rule on.
Their entire debt burdened business model Is one big cheat in any meaningful sense of the term.
You can’t cheat a rigged game.
We probably technically are because the rules were written by cheats to trap New Money clubs and keep them out.What mistakes? You are assuming we were guilty of some offences that had time expired protecting us.
The wording of the judgement isn't in full, so nobody knows the actual meaning yet.
They way i'm reading it, is that some of the "charges" were not valid. since they exceeded UEFA's own time rules. Therefore we had nothing to defend/answer to. That doesn't imply we were guilty of them etc.
But as far as I’m concerned you cannot cheat cheaters. Unjust rules are made to be bent or broken so we are guilty of nothing whatsoever.
BillyShears
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It is being widely reported that nobody associated with City knew the decision on Friday. Same at UEFA's side. It was genuinely given to both parties yesterday morning a couple of hours before it was published. That's kinda mental. We really did take a 'shit or bust' approach with this case.
Looking forward to the full judgment and Stefan's analysis of it. Will be interesting to see what it says, but my bet is it'll say more or less that everything in the leaks pre 2014 the panel simply couldn't look at, and the only post 2014 issue was the Etihad sponsorship deal which UEFA were never going to be able to prove anything about.
In the end it really was as simple as a lot of us thought it would be at the start in terms of what the main issues at play were.
Looking forward to the full judgment and Stefan's analysis of it. Will be interesting to see what it says, but my bet is it'll say more or less that everything in the leaks pre 2014 the panel simply couldn't look at, and the only post 2014 issue was the Etihad sponsorship deal which UEFA were never going to be able to prove anything about.
In the end it really was as simple as a lot of us thought it would be at the start in terms of what the main issues at play were.
Centurions
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ALLEGED offences.I’m as pleased as shit with the outcome. But let’s not forget a big reason is that the clock ran down on some offences so the club has to learn from and avoid those mistakes.
EDITED to add. I think the whole FFP was a Pulling The Ladder Up exercise by Old Money and should be abolished.
CAS will have looked at our assertion that they couldn't reopen something that was beyond UEFAs own self imposed 5 year limit, they would have then set them aside without even considering them. Believe it or not, that doesn't make us guilty.
Some of them of course weren't time limited and CAS stated that they weren't self funded, therefore the implication is that the time barred stuff would also have passed muster.
You're buying into the media and opposing fans way of thinking.