CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

[domalino]

Dave Kitson is the Katie Hopkins of football pundits.

The best way to deal with trolls is to completely ignore them and their desperate need for attention.

Exactly, which is why I'm suspicious of how a video with no views at all has found itself spread all over City social media.

 

[Phil1]

It’s years and years of our softly softly approach that emboldens snivelling little gobshites like Kitson to come out and make comments like this.
I’d like to think we are doing things behind the scenes to prevent this but a quick scan over several of the journos tweets who’ve been sniping for the longest tells me we are still letting them crack on and drag our name through the mud.
It’s fucking infuriating seeing them get away with their poison.

 

[kaz7]

No, they don't.

No one who knew what they were doing would've lost control of the narrative so spectacularly in the first 48 hours.

Nobody would have expected anything other than what has happened ,pep said he hoped but knows it won't happen, that people would stop saying bad things,the media who ran the racist hate campaign are not going to lose face and say they were wrong,the pricks are still pricks,don't expect anything different,everyone at the club knows how it is

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Candle waiver owners said to be shocked by City acquittal.

Agent Parry gave them bad advise.

Haters all regurgitating the same mantra " FFP IS DEAD THANKS TO CITY"

So let me get this straight.

We are cleared of violating FFP.

But this means FFP is dead ?

Ho the fuck do these retards come to this conclusion.

Just reinforces my view,guilt,or innocence was irrelevant.They just wanted us fucked over.

Surely you know the answer FFP was only brought in for them to use as a final last ditch attempt to fuck us over.....and it failed so is now of no use, expect FFP2.0 shortly.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

We still have taken a pinch mate. That £10m fine is a fucking joke. 10m for failing to cooperate with an investigation into something we hadn't done? Effectively a fine for what in the US would be taking the 5th or here the right to remain silent - both quite sensible courses of action in the face of what turned out to be a witch-hunt / malicious complaint and the breaches of confidentiality by uefa during their 'investigation'.

I see it as even worse than that.
My take on what happened is we withdrew cooperation because UEFA through the IC were not adhering to due process. They were acting as judge and jury without considering the considerable dossier of evidence we had put together in defence.
At the same time they were leaking what should have been confidential, to the media and having us tried there.
With the media having us hung drawn and quartered they then just got rubber stamped by their AC.

We were the only ones adhering to due process, their rules and it became evident that we had to get to an independent court.
We were right to withdraw from what was quite obviously corrupted.

For us to have to pay them any amount now just to get an independent court to rule on it really irks me.
They were the problem. Cooperating further with them was leading to further reputational damage.
If we have to pay for not sticking to the process then they should too. They were riding roughshod over their own rules at the H8 & G7’s behest.
That’s what started the impasse.

I’m not normally a vengeful man but this still boils my piss.
I want vengeance.

 

[jimbo101]

The annoying thing is that Kitson isn’t an idiot.
He’s an intelligent person with varied business interests.
Doesn’t have anything specific against us from his past, he is just typical of the masses who believe the shit spouted by the media over the past 6-7years.
Brainwashed and unable to back down.

 

[kaz7]

Newcastle, if their takeover goes through, would have every reason to stall and weaken us as long as possible.

Isn't the maybe new owner a relative of our owner?

 

[Fordyboy46]

We?

Well not me obviously Karen, lol.

 

[domalino]

the full report narrative is of most importance, until we can go point by point through that, and then point back to Monday's articles and who decided to go off on a tangent then it was always going to be a mixed response because we had a verdict, without the full facts released to quash wilful misrepresentation and insufficient detail to realise detailed responses and statements.

It's not crisis management at this stage. It's now a case of differentiating those who recoiled their hand after the first Viper strike, and who still wants a second helping when the full judgement is released.

There will be no "full report narrative".

The world has made its judgement, the decision has been made, the line has been cast. There was a massive build up and anticipation, the story dominated for 48hours and the story is that City got off on a technicality, it's a disgrace, CAS are questionable and it's a bad day for football.

I think if you think any rival fan or generic pundit is going to re-focus on a second press release that involved technical details and changing their opinions on the verdict established already then you're dreaming.

Even if the full report came out and completely exonerated City, no one outside the fans would pay attention. The articles wouldn't get clicks, the Jordan's, Warnock's and Kitson's of this world would not pay attention, and will just regurgitate "time-bar, bad day for football" etc. for the next decade whenever City come up.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Tolmie, are we going to send out some strongly worded letters at the very least to halt the lies and slanderous bile that is being spouted?

We have to wait and see the CAS explanations. City don't have to do anything just yet.

We must let the usual suspects give themselves enough rope.

All we need to see is CAS asking why UEFA brought the case and everything else will look after itself, the attempt to damage the club's reputation being clear for everyone to see.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Surely you know the answer FFP was only brought in for them to use as a final last ditch attempt to fuck us over.....and it failed so is now of no use, expect FFP2.0 shortly.

That’s the reality of what Klopp has said.
Really can the media not see it clearly.
Pep spelled it out.
We are innocent. It should be celebrated that we are using the same rules as everyone else.
No there answer is now as it was back in 2014.
The rules need to be changed.
They aren’t snaring City.

Should it not be obvious to the world what any FFP they come up with is about. They aren’t even hiding it anymore.

 

[SilverFox2]

Some people are up his arse but you can really feel Sam Lee’s frustration in his tweets today. Just going on about how the final award needs to show City were completely not guilty and aren’t just using loopholes etc.

To be fair to him he’s probably had to delete about 5 full articles he had planned for if we were banned.

He is also saving his job having been told he needs clicks by a cash strapped employer.

 

[paulchapo]

Isn't the maybe new owner a relative of our owner?

I honestly don't know but I can see why they would want to weaken us. Maybe they have someone else waiting in the wings? They can mount a challenge with investment and a 52,000 crowd behind them.

 

[Claytop]

There will be no "full report narrative".

The world has made its judgement, the decision has been made, the line has been cast. City got off on a technicality, it's a disgrace, CAS are questionable and it's a bad day for football.

I think if you think any rival fan or generic pundit is going to re-focus on a second press release that involved technical details and changing their opinions on the verdict established already then you're dreaming.

Are you really that bothered about what rival fans or know nothing pundits think? The majority of these dislike City regardless and nothing from CAS would have changed that. I'm honestly not bothered in trying to convince people who won't listen regardless.

What would you have suggested we'd have done to stop Delaney, Harris, Kitson or any of these people not continue to write shit?

 

[domalino]

Are you really that bothered about what rival fans or know nothing pundits think? T

Please don't tell me that it isn't important what the world thinks when we have a media thread that's 3000 pages long every season, people posting videos of every journalist/pundit who aggrieves them and 2 seperate threads for media coverage and opposition fan reactions.

An organised response would have had a statement that framed the decision the way City want it. The same way UEFA put all the focus on the time-bar. It would have had comments from people like Soriano, who commented on it previously, saying he was vindicated.

Or at the very least they could have put some sort of emphasis on the media waiting to hear the full award.

I'm not a PR expert, anymore than I'm a Formula 1 engineer but I can still recognise a car crash when I see one.

You will never recapture the narrative after this long anyway.

 

[slbsn]

Those waiting for the award to clear this up are going to be disappointed. It will be carefully worded.

 

[pudge]

Any word on when the findings are released? Do CAS just stick them up on their website without notice this time?

 

[Tb1981]

We have to wait and see the CAS explanations. City don't have to do anything just yet.

We must let the usual suspects give themselves enough rope.

All we need to see is CAS asking why UEFA brought the case and everything else will look after itself, the attempt to damage the club's reputation being clear for everyone to see.

City need to select three or four of them and go to town on them
Either a public apology or financially ruin them in court
Send a message to the rest to be right and prepared to back it up or shut up

 

[paulchapo]

We have to wait and see the CAS explanations. City don't have to do anything just yet.

We must let the usual suspects give themselves enough rope.

All we need to see is CAS asking why UEFA brought the case and everything else will look after itself, the attempt to damage the club's reputation being clear for everyone to see.

Yes there is a lot of mileage in that. If UEFA knew there wasn't a cat in hells chance of winning then the questions have to be asked why the case was ever brought. Even worse why they had the audacity to hand down a two year ban based on flimsy evidence if it wasn't to damage our reputation.

 

[EricBrooksGhost]

The annoying thing is that Kitson isn’t an idiot.
He’s an intelligent person with varied business interests.
Doesn’t have anything specific against us from his past, he is just typical of the masses who believe the shit spouted by the media over the past 6-7years.
Brainwashed and unable to back down.

I would say your last line disproves your first