The Spiteful Nine

nmc said:
The reality is even IF FFP rules aren’t applied to them their wage bill is higher than anone else’s in the PL and they are building more and more debt in times of economic uncertainty and when their income is looking uncertain and falling. Those they owe money to will be demanding more assurances and higher rates of interest - so things will slowly start to catch up with them. Like Barcelona you can’t keep on borrowing forever, debts need to be serviced and eventually it’s affects your ability to spend. United are saying they are in for Sancho but if they buy him I’m guessing that’s their entire transfer budget and they must be looking to offload some of their higher earners. The Doughnut Thief on £350k per week and Sanchez is allegedly on £200k per week to play for Inter. They are Not a well run ship, their business model is based on unrealistic future growth and their owners are in the midst of a financial meltdown so they’ll be taking money out of United and using what equity United have left to borrow even more money. As a secondary point OT is going to need some serious money spending on it in the next 10 years and United will need to fund that from somewhere !
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Most of the Glazers’ money is in retail property. That industry is doomed. They’ll be looking to rinse even more out of the club
 
LongsightM13 said:
I was referring more to the sign stealing thing which seems to have been tolerated/promoted by FSG
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Sorry, yes Fenway Sports clearly have a culture of cheating but their behaviour with the Marlins demonstrates that they are bunch of shits too. They will sell Liverpool at some point - there’s no passion - Henry is only in it for the money.
 
The fact is that Fenway dont give 2 shits about the dippers. They are a commodity to make money and rinse the plastic fanbase for their own gain - nothing more.

They seeked assurances over FFP prior to the takeover, probably got the nod and the deal was done...no doubt they are within the cartel agenda to stop our owners from growing our club - especially domestically.

The fact scudamore stated they have a plan for a new name on the league title - wtf. If that isnt corruption there then what is.

The CAS ruling has fucked FSG right up because they believed they had cleared a path to mop everything up domestically for the foreseeable future....

had the ban stayed.

In fact they were hoping that had it stayed then the FA would also act on our club.

This would have brought untold revenues for FSG under the red tops name. Something they were counting on with the ban from UEFA. It is no wonder that Parry was and still is involved on the uefa board that deals with these issues.

Gill also has a part, even though Gill and Parry bat for 2 shitstain clubs competing against each other, they have combined jointly to fuck over the biggest obstacle that stands in their way - MCFC

Join together and remove the threat...threat removed then back to normal.

Hard fucking luck

We are here to stay.

The biggest threat and one they are scared of is, that within their own history they built up a domestic trophy haul over a sustained period - There is a very strong possibility that within the next 25 to 30 years the most decorated club on our shores could be our club.

That is what they fear.

The fear is that they will have to change players to catch up..they then have to change managers...that brings other issues such as a new style of play and then they are back to square one.

Our owners and those that are close to our manager, have brought Pep in to not only win trophies, but to instill a style of football within the culture of our club from the academy up.

I watched a documentary the other night, 'Barca, the making of the greatest team'

And something Xavi said at the end rang true...with what we are achieving here now.

Players will come, players will go. Some will adapt and some wont.
A manager will come and improve on what the last manager did

But the style of play will remain the same

That is where we are

We will look back on this period as fans of our club and eulogize about the time the philosophy of the club changed under the guidance of Pep

And that my fellow Blues is one reason they hate us so much. It isnt just about the trophies but it is also how we are going to be recognised in the future
 
kaz7 said:
Anything in this @Prestwich_Blue
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Don't know. On the one hand it could be, as they say, that he signed up for 3 years and that's now up. On the other hand, they could be packing him off before the shit hits the fan and replacing him with someone whose hands they can claim are clean.

The one odd thing is that he's been there 3 years but is staying on for a little while to hand over to Billy Hogan. But Hogan's been there quite a few years - at least 15 - so he could have been handing over his role for the last 3 months yet is doing it only after his 3 years has elapsed. Seems to suggest it wasn't quite as planned as they're making out.
 
Unfortunately as much as we like to point to United’s debt it is not actually an issue,

It was previously and they where lucky revenues (TV deals, sponsorships) rose at the rate they did.

The only question marks I see is whatever happened to the PIK loans and their is a reason they are in the Cayman Islands (a huge point if our accounts where there, we would never hear the end of it). However, they do give a lot of information to the stock market and that must be accurate.

However, it is obviously worse then investment and both should be allowable under FFP as long as it is financially sound to do so.

I would add I think Barca are heading into dangerous times and it will be interesting to watch.

Without doubt there will be some sort of investment that will somehow be allowed within FFP.
 
Fuzzy80 said:
Unfortunately as much as we like to point to United’s debt it is not actually an issue,

It was previously and they where lucky revenues (TV deals, sponsorships) rose at the rate they did.

The only question marks I see is whatever happened to the PIK loans and their is a reason they are in the Cayman Islands (a huge point if our accounts where there, we would never hear the end of it). However, they do give a lot of information to the stock market and that must be accurate.

However, it is obviously worse then investment and both should be allowable under FFP as long as it is financially sound to do so.

I would add I think Barca are heading into dangerous times and it will be interesting to watch.

Without doubt there will be some sort of investment that will somehow be allowed within FFP.
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Debt kills clubs, not investment. Until FFP addresses that then it isn’t worthy of the bullshit name
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Don't know. On the one hand it could be, as they say, that he signed up for 3 years and that's now up. On the other hand, they could be packing him off before the shit hits the fan and replacing him with someone whose hands they can claim are clean.

The one odd thing is that he's been there 3 years but is staying on for a little while to hand over to Billy Hogan. But Hogan's been there quite a few years - at least 15 - so he could have been handing over his role for the last 3 months yet is doing it only after his 3 years has elapsed. Seems to suggest it wasn't quite as planned as they're making out.
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All hands on deck deleting files and shredding documents?
 
If we keep winning and investing within 10 years we will be sitting at the top of the table and the media will be rich with ex City players waxing lyrical about the City Way......Just need to keep moving forward...
 
It's amazing that seemingly no one gives a shit about the Americans taking over as they definitely seem to be trying to do.

I make no exaggeration when I say the Americans are the number 1 threat to football as we know it in England, they will kill the game for money and not give a shit. Everyone should be worried about it. Instead the propaganda puppets tell us they're doing it the right way and we should be thankful.

Disgraceful really.
 
Fuzzy80 said:
Unfortunately as much as we like to point to United’s debt it is not actually an issue,

It was previously and they where lucky revenues (TV deals, sponsorships) rose at the rate they did.

The only question marks I see is whatever happened to the PIK loans and their is a reason they are in the Cayman Islands (a huge point if our accounts where there, we would never hear the end of it). However, they do give a lot of information to the stock market and that must be accurate.

However, it is obviously worse then investment and both should be allowable under FFP as long as it is financially sound to do so.

I would add I think Barca are heading into dangerous times and it will be interesting to watch.

Without doubt there will be some sort of investment that will somehow be allowed within FFP.
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Their’s and every other club’s debt will be an issue, if they cant get supporters in the ground in the near future, which looks very likely after yesterday's announcement by the government. United’s match day income is circa 2million pounds per match x 19. Advertising and sponsorship will also start to fall if grounds are empty.
 
Chappie said:
Their’s and every other club’s debt will be an issue, if they cant get supporters in the ground in the near future, which looks very likely after yesterday's announcement by the government. United’s match day income is circa 2million pounds per match x 19. Advertising and sponsorship will also start to fall if grounds are empty.
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Games be still on tv and with no crowds they have loads of space to have massive advertising banners on the seats which will get the coverage for the sponsors.
 
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