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kaz7 said:
I have an appt for my tattoo guy tomorrow to discuss a portrait to be done in Jan once he has cleared his backlog of one's to do ,if we are not in lockdown again,he is fully licenced by the Gov and has to keep as clean to nhs standard but I couldn't get a beauty treatment on my eyebrows and they have always worn some ppe ,it would help if the rules made more sense
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Changes announced, happening on Saturday, so can get beautified eyebrows again (perhaps).
 
cleavers said:
Anyone planning on leaving the country right now is asking to have to spend 14 days indoors when they get back (whether there is any way it can be policed is a completely different matter).
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So let me get this straight, it's absolutely fine for people to be working in supermarkets, warehouses, factories and offices where they are quite exposed and have been throughout the pandemic (especially key workers, whilst others have been having a jolly with furlough) but the minute they step foot on the plane to somewhere with a lower infection rate they are immediately villainized...
 
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Northernstorirs said:
So let me get this straight, it's absolutely fine for people to be working in supermarkets, warehouses, factories and offices where they are quite exposed and have been throughout the pandemic (especially key workers, whilst others have been having a jolly with furlough) but the minute they step foot on the plane to somewhere with a lower infection rate they are immediately villainized...
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It’s the close proximity of 200 plus people sat with no distancing for a number of hours that increases the risk of infection. A few hundred people spreading the virus could be lethal upon return.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
hence we could do without moaning at those that enjoy going to the pub
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Did you see the bar owner in Oldham? He applies the rules (take names, enforce distancing) and people walk out and go to places that don't enforce. They are made to be moaned at.
 
BerkshireBlue said:
Really and how is it spin? Its facts orchard you a Trump supporter?
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What has Trump got to do with this? Very odd comment, I'm not a Trump supporter and even if I was his would that have any impact on my thoughts on covid.

If you think the mortality rate is 1.5% then you are basically going against every person who knows what they're taking about in the world. You've added over 20k onto the death figures to try and come up with a number that suits the fear agenda that you have bought into.
 
I posted in the political thread about the stats behind the reduction in deaths (no responses to that) but I did also notice this from ONS.

"In Week 31, the number of deaths registered was 1.0% below the five-year average (90 deaths fewer); this is the seventh consecutive week that deaths have been below the five-year average.

"The number of deaths in care homes, hospitals and other communal establishments remained below the five-year average in Week 31, while the number of deaths in private homes continued to be higher than the five-year average (676 more deaths)."

If I read that right, that means deaths from Covid took such a toll that there are now fewer people dying from old age because so many already died from Covid. And deaths in homes and hospitals are lower because there are fewer people in homes and hospitals (whether choice or fear or lack of places) so more die at home.

I'm really not sure if this is good news or not.
 
Northernstorirs said:
So let me get this straight, it's absolutely fine for people to be working in supermarkets, warehouses, factories and offices where they are quite exposed and have been throughout the pandemic (especially key workers, whilst others have been having a jolly with furlough) but the minute they step foot on the plane to somewhere with a lower infection rate they are immediately villainized...
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Theirs more to this whole charade now.
The tourism and travel sector is finished.
Their is statistically more people week on week now dying of the flu than cv19.
Week by week we are getting state controlled and our democracy ebbing away.
Yes we have had a pandemic but now is the time to get in with life and learn to live with it.
Why is the uk government not doing this, have they a masterplan for the future and changing the way we live?
 
Vic said:
I posted in the political thread about the stats behind the reduction in deaths (no responses to that) but I did also notice this from ONS.

"In Week 31, the number of deaths registered was 1.0% below the five-year average (90 deaths fewer); this is the seventh consecutive week that deaths have been below the five-year average.

"The number of deaths in care homes, hospitals and other communal establishments remained below the five-year average in Week 31, while the number of deaths in private homes continued to be higher than the five-year average (676 more deaths)."

If I read that right, that means deaths from Covid took such a toll that there are now fewer people dying from old age because so many already died from Covid. And deaths in homes and hospitals are lower because there are fewer people in homes and hospitals (whether choice or fear or lack of places) so more die at home.

I'm really not sure if this is good news or not.
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I suggested this would happen a while ago and that by the end of the year the excess death figure may well have levelled off, as a high % would have passed in the next 6 months or so regardless. Wouldn't have matter which illness they got, it would have probably had the same result.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
Theirs more to this whole charade now.
The tourism and travel sector is finished.
Their is statistically more people week on week now dying of the flu than cv19.
Week by week we are getting state controlled and our democracy ebbing away.
Yes we have had a pandemic but now is the time to get in with life and learn to live with it.
Why is the uk government not doing this, have they a masterplan for the future and changing the way we live?
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We haven't had a pandemic. We are HAVING a pandemic.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
Theirs more to this whole charade now.
The tourism and travel sector is finished.
Their is statistically more people week on week now dying of the flu than cv19.
Week by week we are getting state controlled and our democracy ebbing away.
Yes we have had a pandemic but now is the time to get in with life and learn to live with it.
Why is the uk government not doing this, have they a masterplan for the future and changing the way we live?
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The whole world has changed the way we live. It's not just our government.
I have had to drive trains in and out of Central London every rostered working day since before lockdown started. I have not been furloughed nor taken fourteen days off because a had a cough. I shit myself looking at all the people milling around without masks when I am walking to my train because I know people are still catching it and are still dying of it. I'm in my sixties and as such am more vulnerable to catch it.

I support all measures to minimise the likelihood of my premature death.



Rant over.
 
Vic said:
I posted in the political thread about the stats behind the reduction in deaths (no responses to that) but I did also notice this from ONS.

"In Week 31, the number of deaths registered was 1.0% below the five-year average (90 deaths fewer); this is the seventh consecutive week that deaths have been below the five-year average.

"The number of deaths in care homes, hospitals and other communal establishments remained below the five-year average in Week 31, while the number of deaths in private homes continued to be higher than the five-year average (676 more deaths)."

If I read that right, that means deaths from Covid took such a toll that there are now fewer people dying from old age because so many already died from Covid. And deaths in homes and hospitals are lower because there are fewer people in homes and hospitals (whether choice or fear or lack of places) so more die at home.

I'm really not sure if this is good news or not.
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In here.
 
the stats pages are beginning to annoy me now, you cant download case data by lower or upper tier area for about a week now, each time you select it you only ever get UK total only by date.

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

GOV.UK Coronavirus dashboard
coronavirus.data.gov.uk coronavirus.data.gov.uk
 
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