It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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I think what we would have to pay him, and pressure from sponsors would mean he would have to play most of the time.

And I also think we are too big of a club to have players, however great they were, winding down their career's in our team.

Juve and Ronaldo, big gamble by Juve to bring him in and win the Champions League and it's failed.Now Ronaldo's crazy contract is killing Juve. I also think Ronaldo in terms of condition/fitness is well ahead of Messi.

I agree with what your saying and fitness and age is my point.
Not a chance he will come to England and play 50+ games.
I'm pretty sure sponsors etc will know that.
 
I kind of feel if this had happened a year or two ago we would have been in a better place lol. Now we're kind of in a mess too. Not as bad as Barca but still.

We are in a mess? I’ve supported City since 1976 and I really wouldn’t categorise the present situation as a mess. Won the League Cup, semis of the FA Cup, Quarters of the CL and runners up in the League. How long did we go without winning a trophy. We need a few tweaks but we still have the best squads in the league. If we had Ball, Clarke or Pearce at the helm and not a pot to piss in that would be a mess.
 
The main reasons we lost 9 were a combination of some dross defending but more importantly not scoring from the shedloads of chances and possession we created in pretty well all of those games

Southampton away is a good example - made and missed enough clear cut chances to score 5 even on a wasteful day... how we conspired not to score at all beggars belief. All of that wastefulness was combined with a defensive mistake of epic proportions that cost us yet another defeat. Individual errors have crept into the side as the squads concentration and focus have dropped off badly this year.
 
Why would we want Messi ? After all,Pep left 3 playmakers on the bench against Lyon.

Tbh, I think if we signed Messi (which we won't) he would be an out & out forward & goalscorer.

I would look at our strikers as being Aguero, Jesus & Messi, but because Messi is different, we could get away with playing 2 if we wished.
 
Tbh, I think if we signed Messi (which we won't) he would be an out & out forward & goalscorer.

I would look at our strikers as being Aguero, Jesus & Messi, but because Messi is different, we could get away with playing 2 if we wished.
Think it would be easier to play Jesus and Messi, than Aguero and Messi. Argentina have tried and it hasn't really worked. I think Messi as a false 9 with Jesus on the left Sterling right would be perfect.
 
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Why would we want Messi ? After all,Pep left 3 playmakers on the bench against Lyon.

Yep thing with pep is when over thinking and looking at stats of players he looks at he looks at the stat that players give the ball away and in there champs games he feels we will be punished more what i find weird he should look at the energy the likes of Foden and B Silva would give the team which would worry the oppositions more. Pep in champs league last half dozen years has been piss poor with the squads he has had.
 
Tbh, I think if we signed Messi (which we won't) he would be an out & out forward & goalscorer.

I would look at our strikers as being Aguero, Jesus & Messi, but because Messi is different, we could get away with playing 2 if we wished.

Ederson

Walker Laporte Ake Mendy/a n other

Rodri Fern

KDB

Torres/Messi Aguero Sterling

I set that as a 4-2-1-3.
 
Rodri was dribbled past twice as often as Fernandinho was the season before. Made a lot less interceptions(35 v 60). Rodri won less aerial duels though had a higher win rate, just engaged a lot less(100 v 165). He was also dispossessed over twice as often(28 v 13).

We've sacrificed protecting our defence for a better passer, despite it being the season our defence needed most protection(Vinny gone and highline with slow cbs).

Imo we need a mobile cdm to rotate with Rodri if we don't want to see similar results vs quick teams next season..

The problem with this comparison is that Fernandinho had the great pressing system we had with Silva + KDB ahead of him, and this season, Silva couldn't press anymore.

When Fernandinho played defensive midfield at the end of the season he got bypassed just as easily.

Rodri got dribbled past 1.45 times per match this season.

Fernandinho got dribbled past 1.66 times (only 5 times in the 3 games he played at defensive mid,all against lower table opposition)

Last season Fern only got dribbled past 0.57 times per game, but worth noting, that in 17/18, it was 1.41 - the same as Rodri this season.


As for being dispossesed, your stats are wrong. Rodri got dispossessed 27 times vs. 28 times for Fernandinho last season.

That's despite Rodri having the ball 600 times more over the season.
 
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HOpe we dont put all our eggs into one basket if we really are going for Mesi and get it becomes a distraction to the point where we dont get our other targets

We abolsutely must sign a centre half and a left back for me. A dynamic midfielder is also a must
 
It is actually Messi mate. I was told something couple months back about an approach from his side, some whispers in Abu Dhabi.

Just didn't say anything apart from on PMs.

I mean, it's Messi FFS and heard it all before, so didn't want to put much faith in it.

If there was a time to get Messi it is now considering the transition barca are in with everything involved with the club.
 
HOpe we dont put all our eggs into one basket if we really are going for Mesi and get it becomes a distraction to the point where we dont get our other targets

We abolsutely must sign a centre half and a left back for me. A dynamic midfielder is also a must
It would make our other targets easier to get.
 
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