Of course, not every account that responds to this can be verified to be legitimate and telling the truth. And these are obviously only anecdotal, local accounts — there’s nothing scientific about the various assessments and you wouldn’t use this for data collection per say. Trumpers tends to plaster their support on everything, whilst liberals and independents are often not as quick to put up signs.
But I do find the replies from so many across the US, especially the verified accounts, to be very interesting. And I wonder how many people simply don’t advertise their allegiance and support of Biden for fear of the response from their Trumper neighbours.
I can attest to the response from the verified account regarding Maine; it is very much a “purple” state and once you get away from the southern coast and the greater Portland/Bangor areas (admittedly the areas where a lot of people in the state live) the Trump signage becomes frequent and much more visible than Biden support gear. And they tend to be much more... robust in their support. An acquaintance apparently had a shouting match with a few Trumpers last week outside of a market over her wearing a Biden campaign t-shirt. They [unironically] called Biden a paedophile and asked why she would support him over the president; she replied reminding them Trump is an actual paedophile and admitted sexual predator and things escalated from there.
As many of us have said, there does seem to be a palpable tension, with one side being geared up for a sort of “war”, if needed, by El Presidente and his generales.
Yeah, I wasn’t speaking to anything changing about what needs to happen — we all know it comes down to getting people out to vote. You, I, and many others have been shouting that from our soapboxes for some time.The electoral map showed the same rural v urban dynamic last election. And I see the same things when I travel to far Northern California and eastern Oregon. This time Trump has to run on his own track record, not against Hillary Clinton, in the face of huge blue turnout during the midterms, with a scared and angry and largely unified Democratic Party which is raising money at a much faster clip on the heels of a 16 Presidential election taught everyone what can happen when you assume too much.
It’s an uphill battle for Trump. But for the 40,000th time, which you and I know of course, his diehard supporters are in a cult. There is NOTHING he can do to make them turn on him. Logic won’t work. Facts won’t work. Nothing will work. So it’s all about blue turnout in swing states. That’s it. That’s everything. Nothing’s changed since what we already knew two years ago.
This thread is utterly insane.
Trump has got serious mental issues and is not (and has never been) fit to be President.
Of course there are.Hillary Clinton was a known, and relatively disliked, candidate. Trump was a well-known celebrity and threatened exactly what he has done...shake up DC...just not in the way people are seeing!
The big differences in 2016 that are NOT in place this time are:
1) A woman at the top of the ticket
2) A hated woman at the top of the ticket
3) Trump is most definitely not a “Fuck it! Let’s give him a chance! How bad could it be?!” candidate in 2020.
4) Jill Stein. Don’t underestimate her siphoning off of the female vote and the “alternative to two bad choices” votes. She hurt Clinton.
Regardless, in an effort to keeping it real, here’s the REALITY of the 2016 election results:
Trump did NOT win big. He scraped a victory in a few KEY states with reasonably large numbers of electoral votes, which greatly exaggerates the perception of victory...which, of course, he further exaggerates!
In a “democratic national vote, Trump lost by about 3 MILLION votes. The problem is that many of those “extra 3M votes” occurred in large states where she simply won in such large numbers it didn’t get a similar bump in electoral votes.
So, on an Electoral College basis, look at the Delegate Counts and how many votes actually tipped the scales.
Official 2016 Result
Trump 304 vs Clinton 227
That looks big, but it came down to THREE STATES: Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin
MI: 16 Delegates, difference in the vote: 10,704; 0.22%
PA: 20 Delegates, difference in the vote: 44,292; 0.72%
WI: 10 Delegates, difference in the vote: 22,748; 0.76%
Total difference in Delegates: 46
Total difference in the votes: 77,744
Total NATIONAL votes cast: 136,669,237
Total NATIONAL % Diff: 0.056%
Simply switch HALF+1 of those votes from Trump to Clinton, and you see that changing the following number of votes in each state changes the “winner take all” EC votes from Trump to Clinton:
MI: 5,352 votes
PA: 22,147 votes
WI: 11,375 votes
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Ttl: 38,874 votes
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Therefore, 38,874 KEY VOTES in three key states changed the entire trajectory of the world.
Switching those 38,874 votes from Trump to Clinton would have changed the results from...
TRUMP 304 - CLINTON 227
To...
TRUMP 258 - CLINTON 273.
With 270 Delegates being the magic number needed to be President!
So, are there about 40,000 people in those 3 states that have seen enough of Trump that they will vote for Biden?
BYEDON/HARRIS 2020
There is no denying that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to help secure their 2016 victory, and there is no denying that Russia are still applying those influences in Trumps favour in this campaign.Of course there are.
The real question is are there enough votes that will switch in those states to counter the industrial scale cheating that we all know is happening?
If he’s elected it will be fuck all to do with the amount of votes cast for him.Ive said consistently for the last 2 years I think he will be re-elected. Dont underestimate how stupid they are over there away from the sensible cities
Ive said consistently for the last 2 years I think he will be re-elected. Dont underestimate how stupid they are over there away from the sensible cities
I gave that a like purely for your prescience.If he’s elected it will be fuck all to do with the amount of votes cast for him.
It is what I have been saying in this thread for quite some time but was told I was being a miserable, pessimistic ****...If he’s elected it will be fuck all to do with the amount of votes cast for him.
It is what I have been saying in this thread for quite some time but was told I was being a miserable, pessimistic ****...
There’s no shortage of Americans not in their right mind.I was gonna have a few quid on him at Evens in Decemeber, I thought it was buying money. But given the deaths, his behaviour etc I cannot see anyone in their right-mind voting for him
I've said it before on this thread, but I know a fair few US DoD personnel who you would consider to be pretty clever people academically that voted for Trump and will vote for him again. It's almost as if they are conditioned into voting Republican without question, and that's something they've picked up from an early age.There’s no shortage of Americans not in their right mind.
His hard core support will vote for him just to save themselves the shame and embarrassment of admitting they were monumentally stupid last time. He will pull a stunt on election week that will be just enough to let themselves be convincedI was gonna have a few quid on him at Evens in Decemeber, I thought it was buying money. But given the deaths, his behaviour etc I cannot see anyone in their right-mind voting for him
His hard core support will vote for him just to save themselves the shame and embarrassment of admitting they were monumentally stupid last time. He will pull a stunt on election week that will be just enough to let themselves be convinced