George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

Answer me this; why is it when White men can march as a group or individuals it's called a 'right', but when Black people do it, it called 'problems'?

It really is fooking annoying why one is 'accepted/ expected' and one not.
What the hell are you talking about?

Where have I said I support white militias?

In fact seeing a bunch of red necks in a militia would worry me more.
 


Of course the positive of this is that as we all know, when everyone is armed, the chances of a shooting are reduced to zero. And all of these gun nuts absolutely have to not shoot anyone because otherwise they've disprove their own argument.
 
@Dax777 has said that non-compliance can be used as police justification for force.

He's not said that word-for-word, but it's in every background of what he talks about when one doesn't 'obey' orders.

Well it can, that's just a fact but i'm glad you have said he didn't say it because i've not seen a single person say such a thing.

Does not help making things up fella.
 
Did I say you said that?

I asked a question.
You asked a question that insinuated I’d said white men were allowed to march in a group but black men aren’t.

You then said :

It really is fooking annoying why one is 'accepted/ expected' and one not.

I’d never said one is or isn’t, I’ve never even hinted at it.

It’s of course totally legal in the US to walk around in black combat gear with guns, in a group but I don’t like to see it for obvious reasons, whether it’s a bunch of white guys, black dudes, Native Americans, Mexicans, whoever, it’s uneasy to see and a response to violent oppression is always overcome peacefully, hence my MLK reference.

Please do not put words in my mouth or an argument I’m not making, I am on the side of George Floyd over the police, that guy in the above videos who’s been shot etc. I’m just not on the side of revolutionary violent response, in the form of militias.
 
Well it can, that's just a fact but i'm glad you have said he didn't say it because i've not seen a single person say such a thing.

Does not help making things up fella.

I said it wasn't a quote so how does that equate to 'making things up', if he insinuates that very thing, you fool!

His own opinion on Rayshard Brooks intimates the same thing!

You should bother reading his text.
 
You asked a question that insinuated I’d said white men were allowed to march in a group but black men aren’t.

You then said :



I’d never said one is or isn’t, I’ve never even hinted at it.

It’s of course totally legal in the US to walk around in black combat gear with guns, in a group but I don’t like to see it for obvious reasons, whether it’s a bunch of white guys, black dudes, Native Americans, Mexicans, whoever, it’s uneasy to see and a response to violent oppression is always overcome peacefully, hence my MLK reference.

Please do not put words in my mouth or an argument I’m not making, I am on the side of George Floyd over the police, that guy in the above videos who’s been shot etc. I’m just not on the side of revolutionary violent response, in the form of militias.

At no point did I say 'you' as an individual or mention your name.

You're getting paranoid.
 
I said it wasn't a quote so how does that equate to 'making things up', if he insinuates that very thing, you fool!

His own opinion on Rayshard Brooks intimates the same thing!

You should bother reading his text.

Yeah you are making a tit of yourself now.

You admit he didn't say it, you should just leave it there.
 
At no point did I say 'you' as an individual or mention your name.

You're getting paranoid.
Well you responded to my post and didn’t specify who you were talking about, so I think it’s not unreasonable for me to assume it was me you were referring to.
 
Yeah you are making a tit of yourself now.

You admit he didn't say it, you should just leave it there.

Now you're being dumb.

I qualified what I said about the background of what he says without it meaning his DIRECTLY saying it!

It's in all his 'if you don't comply' messaging!

Like I said, READ HIS TEXT!
 
It means to BLM exactly what it says, it has since been reconstructed later to give the impression that somehow they want a discussion about it, as clearly the realisation that the idea is plainly insane isn't helping too much. There are umpteen quotes by BLM founders that call for it, and the darling of the left over there that is Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, also confirms it means exactly what it says. ''It does not mean budget tricks or funny math.''
All over the cities quoted it is scrawled everywhere, rioters wave banners saying it everywhere, it's been screamed incessantly for months. It's a bit late trying to pretend that it really means tea and a chat about how local governance organises its finances.
You're right about no serious politician not ever considering it, but ironic that those that consider themselves as such do exactly that.

What I really don't understand is why it bothers you so much. Of all the issues to focus on, why this one? Why does a fringe group whose ideas aren't popular across a wide variety of average Americans (of which you aren't one) raise so much ire and indignation? What about BLM's rhetoric frightens and angers you so?
 
This really really fucking upset me.



The black guy is not complying and thus he’s executed on the road but tell me, after the first two or three shots. Is there any need for the fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh?

At that stage it was less about self-protection from the cop and everything about taking a life.

Fuck that country and fuck their police. And absolutely reduce the money spent on policing and spend it on things that could actually improve society.

That was prime tasar territory ,the fact that he thought lets shoot him seven times instead is unfogivable
 
The other question is if he was there to break up a fight between two women, what made them draw weapons against him in the first place?

Was is it 'shoot first, ask question later' policy?
If in doubt, shoot, seems to be the case in significant proportion of cases in America.

Guns need to be removed from the whole picture but I can’t ever see that happening without mass bloodshed.
 

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