Mayor West
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Do you even need to ask? We'd all be like 'he's shit anyway'.
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It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition
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Gingers Dad
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Have the tattooists reopened after lockdown?the Messi rumour is starting to gain some traction in the mainstream media - may mean very little but the story/possibility is starting to spread
What? They have made some great signings, maybe not ready to challenge for the title, but they will be considerably better than last year and will make the challenge for a top 4 place far more competetive.Don't worry about chelsea. The players they signed were not courted by other bigger clubs but are good enoughg for them and they neede them badly. They have signed good players but not extraordiniary players.
The Thiago Silva signing is a great short term fix, the two German guys, top quality young players, who have the potential to be world class.
It's not about how many we score, it's about how many we don't score. It's about sinking the chance at 0-0 and 1-0 or losing 0-1.
Even if we score the same number of goals, it's about which goals you score. They aren't all equal.
Atalanta scored more goals than Barca last season without having a player who would start in Barca's attack or midfield. Messi isn't a guarantee for goals when you need them. But he is a guarantee that our pressing game will be worse than Liverpool's or Bayern's.
You and many others on here are guilty of completely separating Barca's failings as a team from Messi's non-performances in defence. It's like he is making a team full with mediocre players punch above their height and it is always entire their fault when they get smashed 3:0, 4:0, 8:2. It's always about Messi's brilliance when Barca win and always about his team-mates' mediocrity when they lose. Naive.
I predict we won't become a better team if we sign Messi, neither in the PL nor in the CL. There are upsides in signing him, but also downsides. Everytime we lose with Messi, fans and media will laugh at us. Liverpool will get a psychological boost. How come? Well, if we win the title, it's because we signed Messi. If they win it, they are absolute heroes. Media will have field days.
Barca need to rebuild their team but have no money. They will try to use Messi to get some of our talents. No way are we going to pay 200m in this crisis. So, Barca may want, say, Bernardo, Jesus and Garcia to give us Messi. Judging by the opinions on here, many fans would agree to give them these players for Messi. Or just Bernardo and Garcia plus 100m. For me, such a deal wouldn't be good.
That said, I'd like to see how we would perform if we lined up in attack Sterling, Jesus/Aguero and Messi with KDB and Foden/Bernardo behind them, especially against Manure.
I won’t take any argument about why we shouldn’t sign Messi.
any chance what’s so ever of getting him we should because.
ITS FCUKING MESSI.
Any chance whatsoever? Even if Barca want KDB and/or Foden plus a lot of money?
They will try to pull our pants down. Good that our bosses are not daft.
You make some great points.Atalanta scored more goals than Barca last season without having a player who would start in Barca's attack or midfield. Messi isn't a guarantee for goals when you need them. But he is a guarantee that our pressing game will be worse than Liverpool's or Bayern's.
You and many others on here are guilty of completely separating Barca's failings as a team from Messi's non-performances in defence. It's like he is making a team full with mediocre players punch above their height and it is always entire their fault when they get smashed 3:0, 4:0, 8:2. It's always about Messi's brilliance when Barca win and always about his team-mates' mediocrity when they lose. Naive.
I predict we won't become a better team if we sign Messi, neither in the PL nor in the CL. There are upsides in signing him, but also downsides. Everytime we lose with Messi, fans and media will laugh at us. Liverpool will get a psychological boost. How come? Well, if we win the title, it's because we signed Messi. If they win it, they are absolute heroes. Media will have field days.
Barca need to rebuild their team but have no money. They will try to use Messi to get some of our talents. No way are we going to pay 200m in this crisis. So, Barca may want, say, Bernardo, Jesus and Garcia to give us Messi. Judging by the opinions on here, many fans would agree to give them these players for Messi. Or just Bernardo and Garcia plus 100m. For me, such a deal wouldn't be good.
That said, I'd like to see how we would perform if we lined up in attack Sterling, Jesus/Aguero and Messi with KDB and Foden/Bernardo behind them, especially against Manure.
Two years ago this would have been a dream signing, but not now, the guy is 33, and talk of paying a 100m transfer fee for a 33 year old is nuts, Lionel Messi or not and it could even be considerably more than 100m.
We need major upgrades in our squad, young, hungry, world class players looking for titles and looking to become the next footballing superstars.
Any chance whatsoever? Even if Barca want KDB and/or Foden plus a lot of money?
They will try to pull our pants down. Good that our bosses are not daft.
Haha like I posted before some come out with any rubbish to why we shouldn’t sign him if you think our club would sell Kdb or and that trump card of one of our own die hard City supporter Foden tells me you just trying to win an argument with that.
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But ‘good’ players in a well organised team can be far better than ‘extraordinary’ players who aren’t a team. Also to be fair our business so far this window hasn’t been for ‘extraordinary’ signings. If Chelsea strengthen that back 5 and sign Havertz who does look better than good, then they will have a very very good squadDon't worry about chelsea. The players they signed were not courted by other bigger clubs but are good enoughg for them and they neede them badly. They have signed good players but not extraordiniary players.
But what about Bernardo? I think he is the one they would want.Haha like I posted before some come out with any rubbish to why we should sign him if you think our club would sell Kdb or and that trump card of one of our own die hard City supporter Foden tells me you just trying to win an argument with that.
Haha like I posted before some come out with any rubbish to why we should sign him if you think our club would sell Kdb or and that trump card of one of our own die hard City supporter Foden tells me you just trying to win an argument with that.
So not any chance whatsoever
Good. Tell us the limits of what is acceptable.
300m for Messi?
100m plus Garcia, Bernardo and Mahrez? Deal?
I won’t take any argument about why we shouldn’t sign Messi.
any chance what’s so ever of getting him we should because.
ITS FCUKING MESSI.
Oh give it a fkn rest. He is a barcelona player inside out, always has, always will. He is not coming here. The club will never pay his wages or his fee. He will stay in Barcelona. Forget about him and stop wasting your breath on this transfer because it’s not happening.
I wouldn’t want him here anyway. We’ll manage just fine without him and we have our own identity to build. Scoring goals is the least of our problems. Conceding is a big problem so our defence is what needs improvement.
So not any chance whatsoever
Good. Tell us the limits of what is acceptable.
300m for Messi?
100m plus Garcia, Bernardo and Mahrez? Deal?
As a club since the owners took over we have been run exceptionally if we trying to buy Messi don’t you think they have looked at everything to why we could buy him regarding the package?
If you don’t you take our owners as mugs.
Far to much over thinking by some regarding Messi. It's like you are actively looking for negatives instead of the potential positives. It must be shit to live your life tryi g to come up with the worst case possibility all the time.
Its Messi..
Its Messi..
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so if we are genuinely going for messi then i assume we wont go a striker then?
Agree with what your saying but I do think this possible transfer has legs.Oh give it a fkn rest. He is a barcelona player inside out, always has, always will. He is not coming here. The club will never pay his wages or his fee. He will stay in Barcelona. Forget about him and stop wasting your breath on this transfer because it’s not happening.
I wouldn’t want him here anyway. We’ll manage just fine without him and we have our own identity to build. Scoring goals is the least of our problems. Conceding is a big problem so our defence is what needs improvement.
Messi is pissed with the Barca board, the Barca board are pissed with Messi.
Barca need money to rebuild, whatever anyone says on here Messi is starting to fade, yes he still probably is the best player in the world, but he is not a machine, he is 33 and has a lot of football in those legs of his.
If Barca could get 100-200m for a 33 year old pissed off Messi it would be some incredible deal and a get out of jail card in terms of finance.
WickyWain
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How can anyone doubt this man just give over he would tear this league up
Yeah but Samaras looked good on YouTube remember.
so if we are genuinely going for messi then i assume we wont go a striker then?
if we are, then striker is off the table i reckon
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN
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Fantastic if we sign him
Not arsed if we dont
Not arsed if we dont
All the rumours were we wanted Kane now it's switched to Martinez/Felix, if we sign Messi, all those deals would be off , got to be.so if we are genuinely going for messi then i assume we wont go a striker then?
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