It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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sir baconface said:
But he’s reporting it as “this is what it will take” rather than quoting sources, so he’s putting his own slant on it. If it’s simply Barça’s opening shot, as one or two suggest, then he should have said that. Furthermore, he says negotiations are continuing when every other source reckons they haven‘t started.

Time will tell whether he’s uniquely qualified and informed, or whether it’s a case of sloppy, misplaced posting.
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I understand and agree with you. Time will tell. But that wasn't my point. There have been 10s of thousands of news items and posts about Messi and his possible move away from Barca the past few days. All with a differing take on things. Why throw a load of flack at a City fan and jounalist just because people don't like what he said.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I understand and agree with you. Time will tell. But that wasn't my point. There have been 10s of thousands of news items and posts about Messi and his possible move away from Barca the past few days. All with a differing take on things. Why throw a load of flack at a City fan and jounalist just because people don't like what he said.
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I think it’s because we would expect more of him than random journos and KFAs.
 
sir baconface said:
But he’s reporting it as “this is what it will take” rather than quoting sources, so he’s putting his own slant on it. If it’s simply Barça’s opening shot, as one or two suggest, then he should have said that. Furthermore, he says negotiations are continuing when every other source reckons they haven‘t started.

Two possibilities then : he’s either uniquely qualified and informed or he’s guilty of sloppy, misplaced posting.
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He's just read an out of date speculation piece in a tabloid & rehashed it imo.

Very poor.
 
bluetonium said:
If we hear anything on this it will be first via the mardarse Barca board and their preferred communication route, so bear that in mind and expect a generally unfavourable stance against us.

City will keep quiet, we have no need to say anything. Anything else is just guesses and speculation.
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No need to show our hand at all, this is Messi and Barcelona's issue.
 
I'm liking the quiet day, means people are probably talking and not just sat leaking radom stuff to different press pieces, the calm before the storm
 
Imho, the only way I see Gab going to Barca is if we are lining up a move for maybe Lautero who has apparently ruled out a move to Barca. We have a double year due to FFP being relaxed for COVID, so maybe the club are looking that way?? The fear I have is for Phil Foden, who doesn’t seem to be on anyone’s starting eleven...unless Pep has a new system of 2 1 5 2, which would allow him to play Phil as the inside left of the 5, or a back 3 then i think he’ll struggle for game time again with the usual 4 3 3 unless the 5 sub rule is resurrected...
 
ctid1894 said:
No need to show our hand at all, this is Messi and Barcelona's issue.
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If we stepped in now, we would be volunteering to give Barca money & give them an easy way out.

Messi is potentially losing fucking fortunes at the moment, by not dancing to Barca's tune but is willing to accept it, which is something I never believed he would do.

He's not doing that in order to become unemployed, obviously thinks he's heading somewhere.
 
Delboy352 said:
Imho, the only way I see Gab going to Barca is if we are lining up a move for maybe Lautero who has apparently ruled out a move to Barca. We have a double year due to FFP being relaxed for COVID, so maybe the club are looking that way?? The fear I have is for Phil Foden, who doesn’t seem to be on anyone’s starting eleven...unless Pep has a new system of 2 1 5 2, which would allow him to play Phil as the inside left of the 5, or a back 3 then i think he’ll struggle for game time again with the usual 4 3 3 unless the 5 sub rule is resurrected...
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There is no logic to Foden not being in anyone's starting 11, so I wouldn't worry too much at this stage.
 
Tolmie is on YouTube as we speak looking for his next video to post .. as long as it ain’t a heartbreak song we will Be alright
 
Paladin said:
Interesting insight. Thanks for posting.

When you look at things in these terms, which probably most fans don't, it makes you realise how fortunate were are to have probably the best owners in football. How many have replicated our model? Not many. There are signs that Wolves or Sheffield United might be looking at how we do things, but the traditional big clubs - Liverpool, Arsenal, United et al, plus others in the G14, are all standing around, pointing, ridiculing, laughing, saying it won't last as we are just a play thing of the rich. And while they are doing that, Khaldoon turns us into the most powerful football entity on the planet.

Look at Rawk, or Red Cafe. Their fans generally all complaining, accusing us of cheating because we're getting Messi. How unfair it is, because they are big clubs and we are just an upstart with no history. Well, wake up and smell the coffee. Whilst we might be 'a small club with no history', they are fast becoming insignificant clubs with no future. We have overtaken Liverpool in terms of income. United are in our sights. If they are as big as their fans always claim, ask them why are Liverpool and United giving us a free run at Messi? Deep down, they know they are operating at levels well below ours.
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No one likes Liverpool but they are no mugs.

I do think there's a lot to the argument that Messi makes sense for City in a way that wouldn't be so for other football clubs. Like it or not, Manchester City are part of an international group, and Messi has impact beyond the pitch, and beyond Manchester City.
 
ctid1894 said:
Technically absolutely not, physically naturally yes. The balance between the two is not detrimental right now, however as we've seen with Silva and Toure that can change very quickly, even over the course of a season.
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I know but Messi could play his position til he's 40. He walks around or stands still through a game and he has 10-15 bursts when he's off before anybody clocks him.
 
Md repeating the same brief, won't sell below release clause / not sale.

Otherwise quiet day. Hopefully something happening behind the scenes
 
Marvin said:
No one likes Liverpool but they are no mugs.

I do think there's a lot to the argument that Messi makes sense for City in a way that wouldn't be so for other football clubs. Like it or not, Manchester City are part of an international group, and Messi has impact beyond the pitch, and beyond Manchester City.
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Manure would gladly sign Messi if they could. Apparently, he doesn't want to go there.

Agree that City being part of an international group increases off the field effects from signing Messi.
 
Keeper! said:
IF, Jesus has asked to move,a big IF, then put him on the open market and he is sold to the highest bidder, even in these difficult times he would have plenty of takers.

I would love to see Messi with us, but not at all costs. Two seasons is the consensus on his contract with us, then 3 at NYCFC. Talk of 350k week, same in image rights and then a large compensation fee on top to me is too much.

Forgetting Messi for a minute, a transfer window of Ake, Torres and Koulibaly, would be slightly underwhelming and a worry.
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If we get messi one of the attackers will be surplus to our requirement. Aguero/jesus/sterling/torres/Mahrez/bernardo/foden... with CMF of Debruyne/Gundo, Rodri/Ferna we already have 11 players for 6 position. Yes 12 is needed for that some academy guy can come. So we can afford one of our strikers to leave and if required buy a tall lanky striker in cheap. As some plays need a tall striker. That may not be needed if messi is here but just for options. Not necessary but if jesus is willing to go we can afford that.
 
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