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As if a manager in a bn € deal would drop his true strategy to some random paparazzo from his car window...

As if the Messi camp would be too stupid to analyze the contract in detail before quitting the job and going on strike as the biggest event in world football of the last decades...

As if Pep, Txiki and Soriano would be too stupid to analyze Messi's contract in detail and their own budget and business strategy before entering into this tricky situation baring a lot of serious threats...

WTF is going on here.
 
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There’s some flapping on here... it’s almost certainly a tactic by Messi and his team. They ask to leave and Barca behave unreasonably- demanding €700m. The most obvious tactic - which is the one they have employed is to say okay I’ll stay, I won’t sign an extension but if you want I’ll sit here until June, I’m unhappy, you’ve irreparably damaged our relationship but you can pay me until the end of June and I’ll sign a pre contract with City in January. The ball is now in Barca’s court - pay close to £50m in wages etc to an uncommitted player who is going to undermine the Board, the fans are upset at the way a legend has been treated and this will be a long slow painful separation that will end any hopes of reelection. OR accept its over and try to get any sort of fee for him and start the rebuilding process and move on. There’s a few twists and turns to this drama yet and I really don’t think Messi sitting tight plays to anyone’s agenda.
The flapping is because comments have been attributed to Messi Senior and inferences made which people take in good faith.

As to where the ball is, it is in Messi's court. He's set this all up with good approach play, and now to smash it away.
 
I honestly don't understand why Barca would want to keep Messi now.

I could understand it, if he'd said fuck all, but he's given them a perfect opportunity to get his wages off the books & start to build a new team. Every team has to rebuild & he's actually given the President an easy way to start it off.

I don't disagree. There's the momentum for a motion of censure ongoing atm which is aided by the mess many are attributing to Bartomeu which could see his mandate end sooner and advance all the indictments he would face due to the financial state of the club. So if he can get ahead of it and at least ensure a proper farewell, that could influence things in his favor but as I mentioned earlier it might all just be a tactic to use it as leverage to get the best transfer possible from City

We'll see. I think we're closer to the end of this saga than some might think
 
Don’t forget Messi is effectively on strike. He hasn’t turned up when required. That says to me strongly that he wants out.

Having said that this is a potentially earth-shattering deal both for City and European football. That sort of deal is definitely not settled in a couple of days. Patience is the key here folks. Soriano is over there. Let our experts work this out.
 
Disagree, it's wrong to assume that one individual person knows exactly whats best for the club and its supporters. As I said, there are positives and negatives to both models - but don't be so quick to take any power out of members hands.

That's why we've got a board.

Agree there are positives and negatives to both, but when it comes to a sporting club, there's just so much emotion and agenda driven nonsense that people tend to lose their heads.
 
I honestly don't understand why Barca would want to keep Messi now.

I could understand it, if he'd said fuck all, but he's given them a perfect opportunity to get his wages off the books & start to build a new team. Every team has to rebuild & he's actually given the President an easy way to start it off.

Even Bartomeu has nothing to gain from it. Messi just signs a contract with us in January for 2021/22 season and Bartomeu is then both financially fucked and still the guy who pushed Messi out of the club.
 
If he thought he was a free agent why would his old man fly over there to talk to bareclona to talk to Bart and the club ?? he would of just left, been on a plane to Manchester.

also the stories he wants a fee for the club he loves is strange , why would we waste 100 m if he thinks he’s a free man ???

All this doesn’t add up and reeks of getting a New deal / huge role at bareclona /etc ..

Also been tons and tons of money on him staying on betfair , 250k matches on the market and half of that in last few hours and majority in staying at Barcelona
 
He's coming to City ... in the end that is, but still a few twists and turns to go ... so calm down, but know that in the end he's coming here ... more for Pep than City but it's one and the same thing at the moment ... give Pep another three years here on top of his four that'd take him to seven with us (and that looks very likely), add Messi for next three in the mix and by the end of it Pep would me more synonymous with City than Barca ...
 
If he thought he was a free agent why would his old man fly over there to talk to bareclona to talk to Bart and the club ?? he would of just left, been on a plane to Manchester.

also the stories he wants a fee for the club he loves is strange , why would we waste 100 m if he thinks he’s a free man ???

All this doesn’t add up and reeks of getting a New deal / huge role at bareclona /etc ..

Also been tons and tons of money on him staying on betfair , 250k matches on the market and half of that in last few hours and majority in staying at Barcelona
Explains the rates
 
He's coming to City ... in the end that is, but still a few twists and turns to go ... so calm down, but know that in the end he's coming here ... more for Pep than City but it's one and the same thing at the moment ... give Pep another three years here on top of his four that'd take him to seven with us (and that looks very likely), add Messi for next three in the mix and by the end of it Pep would me more synonymous with City than Barca ...

not too sure on that.. but the romance of it- outstanding..
 
He's performed at world class level in england, Spain, and italy. Year after year. He treats his clubs with respect.
He is faster, fitter, a better striker, and more athletic.

7 years ago it was a debate. Nowadays it is
If Messi comes here and performs then your argument is void.

But you have a point.
 
If he thought he was a free agent why would his old man fly over there to talk to bareclona to talk to Bart and the club ?? he would of just left, been on a plane to Manchester.

also the stories he wants a fee for the club he loves is strange , why would we waste 100 m if he thinks he’s a free man ???

All this doesn’t add up and reeks of getting a New deal / huge role at bareclona /etc ..

Also been tons and tons of money on him staying on betfair , 250k matches on the market and half of that in last few hours and majority in staying at Barcelona

Not entirely

I have no doubt Messi loves the club despite desperately wanting to leave. Similarly it does not surprise me if Messi was wanting to ensure Barca got a reasonable fee for him despite not being obliged to. He wants an amicable departure, as much as possible but he does not want to hurt the club that has given him so much - despite the fool that is Bartomeu

He will not be signing a new deal at Barca, that is pretty clear
 
He's coming to City ... in the end that is, but still a few twists and turns to go ... so calm down, but know that in the end he's coming here ... more for Pep than City but it's one and the same thing at the moment ... give Pep another three years here on top of his four that'd take him to seven with us (and that looks very likely), add Messi for next three in the mix and by the end of it Pep would me more synonymous with City than Barca ...

lol why so confident Cos Tolmie said so ???
 
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