It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

[Cobwebcat]

That sums it up for me.

Misses the point for me. Completely wrong.

 

[Marvin]

I think it's unlikely that Messi will come now but barcelona's position is far from ideal is it?

• Messi is going to consider pre-contract negotiations in 3 months
• His wages are enormous, and I think he has a loyalty bonus due at the end of the season too.
• They are financially stretched and if they freed his wages and brought in some money they could bring in players like Martinez
• Messi failed to carry them last season. It's likely to deteriorate still further this season
• It will be really bad for team morale to have the key figure in your side constantly being linked away from the club. That's very damaging and difficult to deal with.

I don't think you can entirely discount a re-think from barca if we put £100m down on the table. We might aas well try. It's hardly an ideal situation for barca is it? It does not look likely I agree but it wouldn't surprise me if we put a bid in. What have we got to lose by doing so?

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I can't help but feel like we're starting to stumble into batshit crazy conspiracy territory. If a bid goes in and Barca don't immediately shoot it down then I'll hold my hands up. But I think, if we're all being honest, today doesn't look like it was some sort of master plan to put a move into action this summer.

Of course it's not over. It's not going to be over until Messi signs a new contract.

 

[Cityzen_89]

Misses the point for me. Completely wrong.

So why do you think he has stayed then?

 

[TueartsOHK]

as much as I would have liked him to play for us I firmly believe he is a one club man, given what he feels for Barca I'd actually wonder how well he would play for another club

one thing that hasn't been mentioned is regarding him losing a court case, it all seems to be down to him not wanting to take Barca to court at all and this is where he has proven that he just doesn't have the willpower to actually leave them. If he really did and things were as bad as he claims then he could end this two ways with court or the webster rule but he just hasn't got it in him to push it through

hopefully from our side now we back away from this, if we pay the money being talked about we are just mugs, if we wait for him to sign in January then we are even bigger mugs as he will find a way to not go through with it again, he is better just waiting for a new president and then signing a new contract with Barca

I hope someday we will stop trying to be nice and please people that will never accept our club and what we do, we still need to toughen up and become more ruthless in how we operate

its always been between Messi and Ronaldo as the best player of this generation, I'd have always gone with Messi but the simple fact is that he doesn't back himself to make it anywhere other than Barca, he will always find a way to stay there.

my other annoyance with this is employees of City so concerned about Barca, I don't care about their history with that club, they work for and are well paid by us and should be thinking more about us than hurting barca's feelings

Great post. Totally agree we should walk away.

 

[cheekybids]

He’s coming I can feel it

 

[RayCTID]

Misses the point for me. Completely wrong.

Family is still an important factor. If his family were more receptive to move he would of really consider his options.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

So why do you think he has stayed then?

Because, and he literally said this about 50 times on camera, the club won't let him leave.

 

[Cobwebcat]

So why do you think he has stayed then?

I explained one page back and agree with Tolmie

 

[kalouk]

So why do you think he has stayed then?

I would guess that Barcalona have said they will take him to court and he doesn't want that for the sake of waiting a few months.

 

[Cityzen_89]

Because, and he literally said this about 50 times on camera, the club won't let him leave.

Well that is right and wrong isn't it. There are measures he can take to ensure that happens but he has also stated publically that he cannot take the club he loves to court.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Family is still an important factor.

Of course but he mentioned family to demonstrate how strongly he felt about leaving not that he had changed his mind. The whole point has been lost on some posters.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

as much as I would have liked him to play for us I firmly believe he is a one club man, given what he feels for Barca I'd actually wonder how well he would play for another club

one thing that hasn't been mentioned is regarding him losing a court case, it all seems to be down to him not wanting to take Barca to court at all and this is where he has proven that he just doesn't have the willpower to actually leave them. If he really did and things were as bad as he claims then he could end this two ways with court or the webster rule but he just hasn't got it in him to push it through

hopefully from our side now we back away from this, if we pay the money being talked about we are just mugs, if we wait for him to sign in January then we are even bigger mugs as he will find a way to not go through with it again, he is better just waiting for a new president and then signing a new contract with Barca

I hope someday we will stop trying to be nice and please people that will never accept our club and what we do, we still need to toughen up and become more ruthless in how we operate

its always been between Messi and Ronaldo as the best player of this generation, I'd have always gone with Messi but the simple fact is that he doesn't back himself to make it anywhere other than Barca, he will always find a way to stay there.

my other annoyance with this is employees of City so concerned about Barca, I don't care about their history with that club, they work for and are well paid by us and should be thinking more about us than hurting barca's feelings

Agree with a lot of that, however I see the pursuit of Messi as being more about our owners than Pep, Txiki and Ferran.
I also see those three as more of a lure than any other management team from any other club.
Their wouldn’t even be a consideration from Messi without the ex Barca trinity.

Swings and roundabouts.

 

[LongsightM13]

It’s a long time until October 5.
Perhaps an interesting few weeks ahead

 

[sutty66]

love tolmies posts, but that must be a sickener, after posting that you tube clip and then saying ‘ abu dhabi done it’!! and no way a slagging off post but what went wrong in less than an hour??!

 

[Cobwebcat]

Well that is right and wrong isn't it. There are measures he can take to ensure that happens but he has also stated publically that he cannot take the club he loves to court.

Those measures would take too long. He has done the only thing open to him and done it very well.

The bit about loving the club is for the fans.

 

[FisHman99]

No if you listen he is saying he wanted to leave so badly that he was even prepared to upset his family. That hasn’t changed.

He is showing people the lengths he is prepared to go to to get out not saying he has changed his mind.

The idea is to create the picture of a shambles of a club that anyone would want to leave or consider joining because it’s that bad.

I hope your right. Just reads to me like he's made his decision to stay, new president next year, Xavi as manager, possibly 1 year new deal then back to Newell's old boys

 

[RayCTID]

Of course but he mentioned family to demonstrate how strongly he felt about leaving not that he had changed his mind. The whole point has been lost on some posters.

His family don't seem that convinced with the move going off the interview

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

His family don't seem that convinced with the move going off the interview

Indeed - seems like that whole point has been lost on some posters too.

 

[Cityzen_89]

Those measures would take too long. He has done the only thing open to him and done it very well.

The bit about loving the club is for the fans.

Fair point but I do still challenge anyone to look their kids and mrs in the faces and tell them they are moving away from friends and family because dad has got a new job for 2 years and see them break down and have no regrets