mancity2012_eamo
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Are you living there Seb?
You seem genuinely worried. Would you up sticks if worst comes to worst?
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You seem genuinely worried. Would you up sticks if worst comes to worst?
andyhinch
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Your worried, I keep thinking he’s going to turn up on my doorstep ;-)
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Have really started to take interest in this thread over the last week or so. As a novice who understands very little about Americab politics, please can someone tell me what GOP stands for. What is Roe v wade? and what does the term lame duck mean in relation to politics?
andyhinch
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@SebastianBlue is your man if he’s got the time
mancity2012_eamo
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Only person on this forum I’ve ever used it on.
mancity2012_eamo
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Grand Old Party.
Republicans.
Took me a while to get up to speed with the abbreviations too.
andyhinch
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I can’t say the same but thundercunt is probably in single figures :-)
mancity2012_eamo
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Mr. Hinchcliffe, would you live there?
We’ll all have to make sacrifices and accept asylum seekers.
andyhinch
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We have strick rules in Wilmslow, it’s a local village for local people ;-)
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Roe v Wade (case law/president) is about a woman's right to have an abortion without interference from the State.
Lame duck Presidency is when a president does not have a majority in the Senate, and therefore cannot easily pass legislation (Obama's last term as an example)
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I have lived in the US for the last few years, first in Boston, Massachusetts, and now in Portland, Maine. I came for an opportunity with my company (managed remote teams around America on both coasts, before recently taking leave for health reasons) and the Swiss missus, as her mother, father, and brother moved her at various times based on various circumstances (two sisters and other family still living in Switzerland). Her mother just became a naturalised US citizen so she could vote a few months ago (dual citizenship with Switzerland), her father is American who got Swiss citizenship 30 odd years ago after moving there and marrying her mother, and her brother is working to get citizenship as he just married an American and now lives on the west coast. My family still lives in or around Manchester, London, Zaragoza, and Barcelona (I am one of those ‘splitters’).
And I am indeed worried, mate. We are considering leaving if things get as bad as we fear they will, even though there will be losses if we do, in both new strong relationships built here and likely financial hits based on some investments I made when we came here (beyond the efforts I devoted to my company).
I know a few would reasonably say I am the pessimist of the bunch on this thread. But I have lived and worked in what were current or previous autocratic nations when I was younger and see many parallels in the way things are going. I see how many in the US still don’t seem to be taking notice of the gravity of what has already happened or the dangers on the horizon (or they are frighteningly in support of it). It all makes me extremely nervous.
Don’t worry, mate, if we leave it will likely be to Switzerland at this point.
But make sure to keep a room ready, just in case. ;-)
GOP
Grand Ole Party
Why Is the Republican Party Known as the GOP? | HISTORY
As early as the 1870s, politicians and newspapers began to refer to the Republican Party as both the “grand old party...
Roe v Wade
The US Supreme Court case and subsequent decision that effectively laid the legal framework for the legalisation of abortion in America.
Roe v. Wade | Summary, Origins, Right to Privacy, & Overturning | Britannica
Roe v. Wade, legal case in which the U.S. Supreme Court on January 22, 1973, ruled (7–2) that unduly restrictive state regulation of abortion is unconstitutional. The Court held that a set of Texas statutes criminalizing abortion in most instances violated a constitutional right to privacy.
www.britannica.com
Lame Duck
In this context it refers to a politician that has lost a recent election (or is set to retire or be removed for some other reason) but is still in office for a short period of time until their current term ends, seeing another politician take their office. This is usually used to refer to someone that no longer as a popular mandate (due to losing an election as a sort of referendum on their performance) or de facto power even though they still hold their elected office, since the voters recently voted them out on a future date.
Donald Trump would be a “Lame Duck President” if he lost the upcoming general election, as he would still be in office until January (this is a transition period) but would be replaced thereafter (that is an unfortunate oversimplification this cycle, but we’ll leave it at that for this explanation).
Most of the time, in past political cycles, a ‘lame duck’ status would see the politician take a much more reserved stance and act conservatively, if not deferential, during the period after losing the election but before they officially left office. There are some prominent exceptions to this, but it *was* generally a political norm.
Unfortunately, Donald Trump, if he were to officially lose, is *very* unlikely to take such a stance. He would likely take a scorched earth approach, making sure to do as much damage as possible before he is dragged out of the White House kicking and screaming (or flailing and frothing, in his case).
A ‘Lame Duck’ Trump would be a danger to all. Which is unfortunate, given it is literally now the *best case* scenario available to America.
Lame Duck in Politics | Definition, Amendment & Famous Outcomes - Lesson | Study.com
What is a lame duck? Learn about the lame duck period and how it affects politicians. Find out what significant actions were taken by lame-duck...
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andyhinch
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A few on here would do it for me mate and I’m told I’m a good cook, it must be difficult times. I can’t get veal sausage though which is my Swiss favourite food, could probably make it if you asked nicely, stay safe.I have lived in the US for the last few years, first in Boston, Massachusetts, and now in Portland, Maine. I came for an opportunity with my company (managed remote teams around America on both coasts, before recently taking leave for health reasons) and the Swiss missus, as her mother, father, and brother moved her at various times based on various circumstances (two sisters and other family still living in Switzerland). Her mother just became a naturalised US citizen so she could vote a few months ago (dual citizenship with Switzerland), her father is American who got Swiss citizenship 30 odd years ago after moving there and marrying her mother, and her brother is working to do get citizenship as he just married an American and now lives on the west coast. My family still lives in or around Manchester, London, Zaragoza, and Barcelona (I am one of those ‘splitters’).
And I am indeed worried, mate. We are considering leaving if things get as bad as we fear they will, even those there will be losses if we do, in the both new strong relationships built here and likely financial hits based on some investments I made when we came here (beyond the efforts I devoted to my company).
I know a few would reasonably say I am the pessimist of the bunch on this thread. But I have lived and worked in what were current or previous autocratic nations when I was younger and see many parallels in the way things are going. I see how many in the US still don’t seem to be taking notice of the gravity of what has already happened or the dangers on the horizon (or they are frighteningly in support of it). It all makes me extremely nervous.
Don’t worry, mate, if we leave it will likely be to Switzerland at this point.
But make sure to keep a room ready, just in case. ;-)
GOP
Grand Ole Party
Why Is the Republican Party Known as the GOP? | HISTORY
As early as the 1870s, politicians and newspapers began to refer to the Republican Party as both the “grand old party...www.history.com
Roe v Wade
The US Supreme Court case and subsequent decision that effectively laid the legal framework for the legalisation of abortion in America.
Roe v. Wade | Summary, Origins, Right to Privacy, & Overturning | Britannica
Roe v. Wade, legal case in which the U.S. Supreme Court on January 22, 1973, ruled (7–2) that unduly restrictive state regulation of abortion is unconstitutional. The Court held that a set of Texas statutes criminalizing abortion in most instances violated a constitutional right to privacy.
Lame Duck
In this context it refers to a politician that has lost a recent election (or is set to retire or be remove for some other reason) but is still in office for a short period of time until their current term ends, seeing another politician take their office. This is usually used to refer to someone that no longer as a popular mandate (due to losing an election as a sort of referendum on their performance) or de facto power even though they still hold their elected office, since the voters recently voted them out on a future date.
Donald Trump would be a “Lame Duck President” if he is lost the upcoming general election, as he would still be in office until January (this is a transition period) but would be replaced thereafter.
Most of the time, in past political cycles, a ‘lame duck’ status would see the politician take a much more reserved stance and act conservatively, if not deferential, during the period after losing the election but before they official left office. There are some exceptions to this, but it *was* generally a political norm.
Unfortunately, Donald Trump, if he were to officially lose, is *very* unlikely to take such a stance. He would likely take a scorched earth approach, making sure to do as much damage as possible before he is dragged out of the White House kicking and screaming (or flailing and frothing, in his case).
A ‘Lame Duck’ Trump would be a danger to all. Which is unfortunate, given it is literally now the *best case* scenario available to America.
Lame Duck in Politics | Definition, Amendment & Famous Outcomes - Lesson | Study.com
What is a lame duck? Learn about the lame duck period and how it affects politicians. Find out what significant actions were taken by lame-duck...
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Between you and my missus we would eat like kings.
andyhinch
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Had them in Zermatt once with Rosti potatoes and veal gravy was fantastic and the Zermattahoff (sp) isn’t a bad b&b ;-)
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Valais is a spectacularly beautiful area in general!
andyhinch
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Your not wrong and the horse drawn carriage to the hotel is a nice touch, I’m probably still paying for it ;-)
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was it vealy good?
FogBlueInSanFran
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I keep reading all these quotes folks are picking out from Republican Senators regarding what they’ve previously said about appointing SC justices in an election — to wit, that they wouldn’t do it before and in some cases some have said or at least intimates they won’t do it now. It seems there’s a great groundswell now to throw those quotes right back in the faces of the senators who made them.
This effort demonstrates that a large number of people do not understand how cults operate. There will not be a single Republican Senator who will vote against a Trump nominee if one is brought forth for confirmation before November 3rd, save Mitt Romney and maybe — maybe I said — Murkowski. If these cowardly enabling courtier eunuchs cared an ounce about hypocrisy, we wouldn’t be where we are now. None of them will risk a Trump backlash, or the inevitable threat from the GOP to pull funding if they’re in a close race. Of course McConnell has the votes. It’s a A FUCKING CULT.
This effort demonstrates that a large number of people do not understand how cults operate. There will not be a single Republican Senator who will vote against a Trump nominee if one is brought forth for confirmation before November 3rd, save Mitt Romney and maybe — maybe I said — Murkowski. If these cowardly enabling courtier eunuchs cared an ounce about hypocrisy, we wouldn’t be where we are now. None of them will risk a Trump backlash, or the inevitable threat from the GOP to pull funding if they’re in a close race. Of course McConnell has the votes. It’s a A FUCKING CULT.
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Cults of personality are particularly dangerous, they encourage megalomaniacal behaviour which to a self aggrandising egotist like Trump appears to come quite naturally.
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