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Healdplace said:
Sometimes I wonder what planet politicians and their scientists live on.

According to the Telegraph the government and science advisers are discussing asking people to have a 'contact diet plan' strategy to tot up how many people they meet each week to keep within a set 'calorie' like number

They cannot do simple stuff like target TV ads at the vulnerable using people the audience intended will trust.

But they expect everyone to go round with a calculator working out if they are yet at their 'contact limit'.

When will they get that spin and gimmickery is the last thing we need and simple direct unified messaging is the way to get things across? Do they have nobody with an IQ under 1000 and a common sense quotient above zero out there?

Every day these days is like watching a new series of Yes Minister.

It is the kind of thing Spitting Image used to spoof as satire but made tragically real.
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Unbelievaboo , that is Cummings with his slogans and catchy tripe , as you say spend money on ads during the day and evenings, key messages, not slogans, be plain and clear instructions , this changing policy and putting out these silly ideas at 10pm in a pay to view paper , fucking joke but typical boris ,he was talking about camel bumps this week ,it is no wonder the public get confused, stay at home, protect the nhs and save lives was clear and concise, since then we have had woolley messages

Coming out of lockdown was a key time, it needed very clear instructions ,from PHE and not gov spin, i think it would have been handled much better

I put this somewhere else ,We should never have let people fly all over the world on holiday, in a pandemic , we had good weather so we should have insisted people stay here , being on holiday but checking the news every few mins to see if you had to leg it home early can't have been stress free or enjoyable , i didn't get why any people put themselves in a tin can with 200 people when we had restrictions on even seeing your families at home
 
Scotland week to week:


0 deaths v 0

244 cases v 245

At 3.7% of tests v 5.4%

259 in hospital (old measure -2) v 63 (new measure - 1)

ICU 7 (old mesure) v 9 (new measure)
 
Wales data

0 deaths happily

199 cases at 2/3% of tests.

Last week it was 0 deaths, 162 cases and 1.5% of tests.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
younger people have been through lockdown long enough and now they simply don’t care - they want to go out and enjoy themselves. It’s the harsh reality.
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The young think they are entitled to having a normal life, todays pampered lot would never have coped with going down the mines from age eight or being sent to fight in a war at seventeen, they have no more of a right to a normal life than the old who deserve their freedom ,I could bang their fucking heads together,a pandemic is not supposed to be easy , everyone suffers

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The 12 England hospital deaths were aged between 62 and 98 and all had previously known underlying conditions.
 
So as of now UK hospital death total is 12. It was 5 last week. And stayed at that in all settings.

There are 444 cases from Scotland and Wales today (it was 406 last Sunday). NI then added 87 and England 2837 for UK total of 3330.
 
MeatnSpudsMCFC said:
www.thetimes.co.uk

Rugby stars dodge testing chaos thanks to Randox lab that misses targets for public

The UK’s biggest Covid-19 testing laboratory is prioritising Premiership Rugby players and travellers to Dubai while failing to meet government targets for the
www.thetimes.co.uk www.thetimes.co.uk


What is the point in forking out money for these companies if they fail to meet their obligations? Wouldn’t surprise me if this was also happening in other professional sports.
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The biggest resource for tests are doing that to the detriment of all of us , no doubt they are sitting on a big fat contract so they can't be taken to task , weak if hancock is letting them get away with that
 
kaz7 said:
The young think they are entitled to having a normal life, todays pampered lot would never have coped with going down the mines from age eight or being sent to fight in a war at seventeen, they have no more of a right to a normal life than the old who deserve their freedom ,I could bang their fucking heads together,a pandemic is not supposed to be easy , everyone suffers

Not all before you jump on me
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I see lots of over 40s hanging outside pubs having a fag as I walk home from work. Some of them are in one pub that I pass as I walk to work at 8am!! There are plenty of older people in groups in pubs all day.
Mind you, this IS Oldham.
 
Healdplace said:
The 12 England hospital deaths were aged between 62 and 98 and all had previously known underlying conditions.
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I would like to know what they are counting as underlying health conditions , it was killing plenty of healthy people but now only those not pure "healthy" they have lied so much that I want to see the criteria they are now using , you don't have to be 100% healthy , is it people with gout or a ulcer on their leg, what ?
 
kaz7 said:
The young think they are entitled to having a normal life, todays pampered lot would never have coped with going down the mines from age eight or being sent to fight in a war at seventeen, they have no more of a right to a normal life than the old who deserve their freedom ,I could bang their fucking heads together,a pandemic is not supposed to be easy , everyone suffers

Not all before you jump on me
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You really have got a massive problem with 'the young' haven't you. Going down the mines at 8 or being sent to war at 17, yes that's really what we want for our kids isn't it. Pretty sure the people your age had a worse standard of life 100 years ago as well but it doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy a better one. Didn't you go to a football match during a pendemic, catch it and possibly spread it? Massive hypocrite.
 
mackenzie said:
I see lots of over 40s hanging outside pubs having a fag as I walk home from work. Some of them are in one pub that I pass as I walk to work at 8am!! There are plenty of older people in groups in pubs all day.
Mind you, this IS Oldham.
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Come on now , it is mainly kids breaking the rules and the odd alcoholic , Oldham is like stoke ,never go in there lol
 
So what's the bets on the 2nd lockdown?

A - Early this week (Monday-Tuesday)
B - Late this week (Wednesday onwards)
C - The following Monday
D - Sometime further into the future.
E - There's not going to be a second lockdown anytime soon

I'm thinking next Monday at the earliest once they've got the message out on the importance of it. I think people will need a lot of convincing so it'll be a tricky one to sell.
 
I know of a few 60+ year olds that have a attitude of ‘no ones gonna tell me I can’t go out’ and ‘I’ve lived my life, if I get the virus so be it’

there’s a bad attitude across all age groups, the young were encouraged to go out last month - now they are the targets of blame
 
True_Blue69 said:
You really have got a massive problem with 'the young' haven't you. Going down the mines at 8 or being sent to war at 17, yes that's really what we want for our kids isn't it. Pretty sure the people your age had a worse standard of life 100 years ago as well but it doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy a better one. Didn't you go to a football match during a pendemic, catch it and possibly spread it? Massive hypocrite.
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What pandemic? It's just flu, isn't it?
 
I've just been behind a middle-aged couple in Lidl. Neither wore a mask but high on their list of priorities to panic buy were five dozen toilet rolls. The fucking irony.
 
I understand people's passionate pleas for people to social distance and adhere to lockdowns etc but just as an example, I come into contact with my team of 6 on a day to day at work (cannot distance because of the work I do). My Wife in in contact with 100+ patients/colleagues albeit with PPE. My Son is at nursery with 40+ kids and 12 staff members.

We haven't been going to the pub etc and have kept all other contact down to a minimum and outdoors weather dependent. We rely on my in-laws for childcare 2 days out of 5 and will need to continue this arrangement so will be breaking the law unfortunately.

X millions in the same situation. Social distancing cannot work because the majority literally cannot do it one way or another.
 
SiMCFC said:
I understand people's passionate pleas for people to social distance and adhere to lockdowns etc but just as an example, I come into contact with my team of 6 on a day to day at work (cannot distance because of the work I do). My Wife in in contact with 100+ patients/colleagues albeit with PPE. My Son is at nursery with 40+ kids and 12 staff members.

We haven't been going to the pub etc and have kept all other contact down to a minimum and outdoors weather dependent. We rely on my in-laws for childcare 2 days out of 5 and will need to continue this arrangement so will be breaking the law unfortunately.

X millions in the same situation. Social distancing cannot work because the majority literally cannot do it one way or another.
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I agree ,the rules make no sense , they haven't for a while ,as I put earlier , people going on planes with two hundred strangers in a sealed can but you can't be with more than six people at a time on the ground or allowed around to grannies garden
 
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