CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

SilverFox2 said:
Strange I agree but in all honesty just because we won a legal battle against our enemies what makes people think they will change their views and see City and our owners more favorably?
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The other clubs won't change their attitudes towards us and we should not expect them to BUT, it would be nice if OUR club changed it's attitude.

Sometimes you have to fight back to win respect and not turn the other cheek.
 
SilverFox2 said:
Strange I agree but in all honesty just because we won a legal battle against our enemies what makes people think they will change their views and see City and our owners more favorably?
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Actually I was trying to figure out why we was shown as Man City rather than Manchester City as the rags were shown.
 
Shirley said:
Actually I was trying to figure out why we was shown as Man City rather than Manchester City as the rags were shown.
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I reckon it's because they know everyone knows us worldwide. They could have just put us as "City" and eveyone would have known but they thought they'd make a token effort by putting "Man" in there.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
You still don’t get it do you. We don’t court controversy. We do our speaking on the field. Doing the things you suggest just gives the media an easy extra few inches in their pages. Our owner is a gentleman and just goes about his business in a calm and orderly way. He doesn’t want any kind of slagging match in public. Listen to our CEO and you might just get a clue on how we work.
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I wouldn't be happy at that approach if I was one of the City sponsors.
Football isn't just played on grass anymore. It is played in the boardrooms and advertising agencies, and more crucially in the hearts and minds of current, and potential, customers.
The club should be all over anyone and everyone who rubbished us, or issued falsely presented (or illegally obtained) material that had a negative impact on the club, including (and especially) uefa.

Look at it this way, messi, mbappe and Haaland would have come to City last year but weren't sure about how the court case was gonna go, so didn't... prove me wrong...
 
Until the club starts to fight back against all forms off media, that fails to tell the truth. Now if the club knows what they say or print is either libellous or slanderous, that organisation and the individual must be taken to court and sued.

I like most fans are sick and tired of the club doing nothing and letting them get away with those statements. This now the time the club fights back. Starting with Der Spiegel, I like most fans here would like to see them in court here,for theft and hacking of our documents. Then if possible also for the libellous statements as well. If that is not possible then let's go and see if we can use them for their libellous Sri in the German courts. They must have similar laws to ours there.
 
King KdB of Belgium said:
Until the club starts to fight back against all forms off media, that fails to tell the truth. Now if the club knows what they say or print is either libellous or slanderous, that organisation and the individual must be taken to court and sued.

I like most fans are sick and tired of the club doing nothing and letting them get away with those statements. This now the time the club fights back. Starting with Der Spiegel, I like most fans here would like to see them in court here,for theft and hacking of our documents. Then if possible also for the libellous statements as well. If that is not possible then let's go and see if we can use them for their libellous Sri in the German courts. They must have similar laws to ours there.
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You don't have to do it through the courts, just stand up for yourself at press conferences, in the media, ex players etc.

It comes from the top, Garry Cook when CEO fought our case all the time, our media departement had brilliant campaigns laughing at our opponents.

Thats was all done under the Sheik , so why the change? Is it the Barca boys and a different culture, or has the owner/ Chairman asked for a change in attitude and if so why?
 
burning blue soul said:
I wouldn't be happy at that approach if I was one of the City sponsors.
Football isn't just played on grass anymore. It is played in the boardrooms and advertising agencies, and more crucially in the hearts and minds of current, and potential, customers.
The club should be all over anyone and everyone who rubbished us, or issued falsely presented (or illegally obtained) material that had a negative impact on the club, including (and especially) uefa.

Look at it this way, messi, mbappe and Haaland would have come to City last year but weren't sure about how the court case was gonna go, so didn't... prove me wrong...
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Prove you wrong? I will turn it around, prove you are right that these players would have come to City. Bold statements need proof.
 
Keeper! said:
The other clubs won't change their attitudes towards us and we should not expect them to BUT, it would be nice if OUR club changed it's attitude.

Sometimes you have to fight back to win respect and not turn the other cheek.
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And the narrative will turn to
"Denying freedom of speech"
The same media will spin it a hundred ways to make our owners seem to be the aggressors.
The owners aim is to build a mega business empire, not win a little battle against the media.
I am surprised that more bluemooners do not understand this.
 
asahartford1 said:
And the narrative will turn to
"Denying freedom of speech"
The same media will spin it a hundred ways to make our owners seem to be the aggressors.
The owners aim is to build a mega business empire, not win a little battle against the media.
I am surprised that more bluemooners do not understand this.
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Not interested in narratives, the truth is all that is relevant, if we tell the truth end of story.
 
Keeper! said:
You don't have to do it through the courts, just stand up for yourself at press conferences, in the media, ex players etc.

It comes from the top, Garry Cook when CEO fought our case all the time, our media departement had brilliant campaigns laughing at our opponents.

Thats was all done under the Sheik , so why the change? Is it the Barca boys and a different culture, or has the owner/ Chairman asked for a change in attitude and if so why?
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So true. For all his blunders Garry Cook was brilliant at fighting our corner. We need to be much stronger with the media. You can take a lot of action short of going to the courts. Legal action should be used sparingly and only against the big guns of the media for maximum impact. City are seen as a soft touch.
 
Issues management should be top of the agenda for the PR dept. Not rocket science, just monitor and send a letter. Be persistent, insistent and consistent. If we don't state our case, nobody else will.
City is a classic case calling out for this, that is false and negative media narrative. Khaldoon said the attempt to harm our rep was clear, so why doesn't he do something about it?
 
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asahartford1 said:
And the narrative will turn to
"Denying freedom of speech"
The same media will spin it a hundred ways to make our owners seem to be the aggressors.
The owners aim is to build a mega business empire, not win a little battle against the media.
I am surprised that more bluemooners do not understand this.
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Can't agree. Where there is a persistent false narrative, it harms the building of that empire. This is bog standard PR. See, for example, oil companies persistent story that they are putting money and effort into going green. Why do you think they are pushing this line consistently?. It is to change the existing rep and gain a new one. CFG have a PR battle in USA, for example. Khaldoon himself wrote that the rep of UAE and the belief that CFG are an arm of that gov has held them back.
 
KS55 said:
Can't agree. Where there is a persistent false narrative, it harms the building of that empire. This is bog standard PR. See, for example, oil companies persistent story that they are putting money and effort into going green. Why do you think they are pushing this line consistently?. It is to change the existing rep and gain a new one. CFG have a PR battle in USA, for example. Khaldoon himself wrote that the rep of UAE and the belief that CFG are an arm of that gov has held them back.
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The "fact" that the CFG do not correct every falsification would tend to mute your point.
If you believe like i do that the media owners want to discredit the club whenever possible, attacking every small mistruth would hardly be reported and would only gain more negative spin where it was.
The club will issue corrective statements whenever the reputation of the owner is questioned. But as we have seen with the CAS decision, the truth exonerating the club will still be reported negatively.
Some people want an all out war on the media, as they did with Eufa, it will not happen.
 
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