Adarabioyo joins Fulham on permanent deal

Zabbasbeard said:
Matter of opinion. He did well in other years as well. He can't have done worse than Garcia did v Lyon and Leicester...if he'd been given a chance.
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I think this has become an issue of Garcia vs Tosin in the matter, other reasons have come up because one has left and one hasn't.

Well, Tosin wasn't good enough to play for us in any season, despite loan spells, meanwhile Garcia seemed to impress everyone coming right out of academy, carrying a La Masia product status. We have turned on Garcia because he wants to leave for Barcelona, but if so, there was one condition that his price was met, and Barça, who spend millions on other players, cannot spend 20m on him because they think they can bully us into selling for cheap? So be it, no deal. As for Tosin, I'm fairly sure the club wanted him to renew, then go on another loan, but he's 23, it's not what he wanted. He does not have any place in this squad, where John Stones, Dias, Laporte, Aké have all been bought in to care for defensive needs. If you think Tosin staying and getting a 'chance' at 23 in the odd cup game was going to prove worth it then you are simply wrong, he decided to move, somewhere he can start permanently not having to worry about his next loan. We can wish him well and move on.

I can totally understand people are upset that a boy who's a blue through and through basically has had to leave, but the circumstances have meant he has to think for his career unfortunately.

p.s. we can't base on could haves and would haves in football either, not how it works. Same as saying if we had Messi in our lineup we would have won CL ; )
 
Unsurprisingly, despite many expert posters who would be happy to have Tosin rotated as our 4th CB .....the only club in the rest of the world who were happy to pay,what the same experts describe as a stupidly low fee, are a championship side (On loan to the PL for one season) who had bid for any CB who could walk the last couple of weeks, and asked any supporter who had boots to turn up next game!
 
Gaudion M said:
Some notable moaners on here are the same ones that demanded we sign a CB all summer and also demanded we held out for £20m for Garcia. Well we did sign a CB and we did hold out with Garcia and that is why Tosin was never going to get a game and we had to take the best offer we got.

In retrospect - we should have sold Garcia for the £15ish that was offered. If it was me I would not have bought Dias and would have convinced Tosin to stay - but hopefully I will be proved wrong.
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You honestly think Tosin has the ability to be as good as Dias? Or am I reading that wrong?
 
BlueCityfan said:
Very good observation. Which is why i think there is no way we got 8m for him. I think the 2m fee is probably accurate.
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You may well be right, I (like everyone else on here) don't really know. My main point about the alleged fee is that some posters are using Twitter quotes to slate the club & Txiki without actually knowing the truth of the matter. Debating whether a £2mill fee (with possible 20% sell-on) is one thing, taking it as gospel just to have a (another) go at the club is another.

Not aimed at you BTW.
 
kippax4ever said:
is still a huge gamble for Fulham.

Dont no why you think that,they knew what they were doing,

Tosin has developed as a player and grown into a formidable defender out on loan to the Championship the past two seasons, where we saw his contributions at Blackburn Rovers first hand last season during our promotion campaign.

Tosin has received positive ratings from our data team and our coaches, and most importantly Tosin himself badly wanted to join us, and he will come in and fight for our Club! Come on Fulham!"
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They would of been willing to pay us more if that wasn't the case. Nothing to do with Txiki.
 
southamptonblue said:
Unsurprisingly, despite many expert posters who would be happy to have Tosin rotated as our 4th CB .....the only club in the rest of the world who were happy to pay,what the same experts describe as a stupidly low fee, are a championship side (On loan to the PL for one season) who had bid for any CB who could walk the last couple of weeks, and asked any supporter who had boots to turn up next game!
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Ha, made me laugh. I'm nicking that one.
 
southamptonblue said:
Unsurprisingly, despite many expert posters who would be happy to have Tosin rotated as our 4th CB .....the only club in the rest of the world who were happy to pay,what the same experts describe as a stupidly low fee, are a championship side (On loan to the PL for one season) who had bid for any CB who could walk the last couple of weeks, and asked any supporter who had boots to turn up next game!
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the usual argument is that he has not been given a chance. some were using the same argument for devante Cole a few years ago.
Good luck to him though
 
It does look like a ridiculous fee but we can only accept what others are willing to pay or keep a player who wants to leave and let him go for free at the end of the season.

For me, with a year left on his deal, he was worth £10m. So we've, if you like, lost 8 million, but we've got the deal done and made a loyal player (and local lad) happy.

With Garcia, we've lost about 8 million pounds in guaranteed cash, and another 6 or 7 million in add ons. But the club have clearly made the call that the message this sends out to clubs like Barca is more important. Also, Garcia is more likely to be used by Pep.

As much as I like Tosin, there is a big difference between a 23 year old who played a handful of games at City a 3 or 4 years ago, before a couple of loans in the championship, the latter of which was very successful. And a 20 year old who has played twice as many games for the club, is rated higher by Pep and is a full Spain international wanted by Barca.

Rightly or wrongly, that's how I see it.
 
BedsBlue68 said:
How many would you take back as good enough for our side today?

We sold Savic, Denayer etc because they were not good enough for us at the time and showed no form to show they would be - Denayer could not even get into the teams he was loaned to (bar Celtic). If we had kept them they may not have got the games they have had to be able to develop to have the form they have today.
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Savic definitely,his issues were mainly surrounding his home life which affected his form,he has developed into a good un and would have saved us plenty of heartache and cash had we stuck with him.

Denayer,Rekik,Mee,and now Tosin (even Boateng might have been handled better?) were never developed properly here - we werent patient enough and saw the cheque book as the best fix.

Hindsight perhaps,but all the above have carved out excellent careers for themselves.
 
asahartford1 said:
the usual argument is that he has not been given a chance. some were using the same argument for devante Cole a few years ago.
Good luck to him though
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There are others who people were saying should be given a chance....they weren't because they were never going to be good enough and disappeared through lower leagues......like Cole! ....and like many others I have no idea where he plays currently ;)
Ref money received, never mentioned on here, but....£10-12m for Angus Gunn, frankly rivals any fee the dippers have got for any of their cast offs ;)
 
southamptonblue said:
There are others who people were saying should be given a chance....they weren't because they were never going to be good enough and disappeared through lower leagues......like Cole! ....and like many others I have no idea where he plays currently ;)
Ref money received, never mentioned on here, but....£10-12m for Angus Gunn, frankly rivals any fee the dippers have got for any of their cast offs ;)
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The default position of many is that others do it better. It is seriously not so. The £200 million or so received for ex academy players is a clue.
I do believe a anti Spanish brigade is lurking, and wishing to raise its head. Mind you some people moan every time we get to Wembley.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Savic definitely,his issues were mainly surrounding his home life which affected his form,he has developed into a good un and would have saved us plenty of heartache and cash had we stuck with him.

Denayer,Rekik,Mee,and now Tosin (even Boateng might have been handled better?) were never developed properly here - we werent patient enough and saw the cheque book as the best fix.

Hindsight perhaps,but all the above have carved out excellent careers for themselves.
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Mee plays for Burnley (it's even his partner that giants west ham/Leicester prefer) Rekik is at Berlin (had to google that) neither internationals, and Tosin will be in the championship next season (excellent career?)...Denayer is not a Lyon player other sides are falling over to buy!
Whilst you could debate Deneyer.... can you see why we didn't keep the others?
 
Should’ve took the money for Garcia and given his place to Toisin. He actually wants to play for the club unlike Garcia. I don’t subscribe to this crap that he’s been called up to the Spain squad so must he decent. He’s been gash in most games and incredibly slow for the PL.
 
Wonder if we had any offers before his loan to Blackburn surely we would have got more for him back then even though he did well at Blackburn after just because of his contract situation and Covid ok we could not predict the later but still
 
01282 said:
Should’ve took the money for Garcia and given his place to Toisin. He actually wants to play for the club unlike Garcia. I don’t subscribe to this crap that he’s been called up to the Spain squad so must he decent. He’s been gash in most games and incredibly slow for the PL.
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I want to play for the club as well but it doesn’t mean I should.
Neither are good enough, that’s the long and short of it.
 
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