flb
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I’d echo that entirely, I’d expect some of the great young talent to prosper a little more also on top of that , this set up is perfect for him
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Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)
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Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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It’s not that difficult for people to understand, and kind of aligns with the recruitment we’ve been down...I still think Poch is by some distance the most likely candidate to replace Pep if he were to not renew next season. In many respects I completely get it. Nagelsman, Rose, Ten Haag et al are different shades of unproven. Poch has done it in the PL consistently.
Lots of people focus on the whole 'what's he won' argument, but that's not hugely interesting for me. Poch is as demanding and exacting at Guardiola is. I'd have no worries if he stepped in because I believe we'd continue at the level we've been at over the last few years.
poch literally fits phase 3 of the mission statement City have put out there from day 1, which was the investment in the academy and transition into the 1st team, we can all see that is materialising, however, the fruits of that won’t be under Peps tenure, imo, which with Poch’s pedigree in this area, it couldn’t be a more perfect fit....
My worry, and it has been the same the last couple of years, is he is ending up in Trafford, sometimes the dots just can’t be joined for whatever reason, we have the Messi circus about to pitch up come January, if that is agreed (which is highly likely), then Pep isn’t going anywhere for at least another 2 years, which gives the scum a free run at Poch, and we may not like it but they also have an extremely talented pool of youngsters coming through....
decisions, decisions....
BillyShears
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It’s not that difficult for people to understand, and kind of aligns with the recruitment we’ve been down...
poch literally fits phase 3 of the mission statement City have put out there from day 1, which was the investment in the academy and transition into the 1st team, we can all see that is materialising, however, the fruits of that won’t be under Peps tenure, imo, which with Poch’s pedigree in this area, it couldn’t be a more perfect fit....
My worry, and it has been the same the last couple of years, is he is ending up in Trafford, sometimes the dots just can’t be joined for whatever reason, we have the Messi circus about to pitch up come January, if that is agreed (which is highly likely), then Pep isn’t going anywhere for at least another 2 years, which gives the scum a free run at Poch, and we may not like it but they also have an extremely talented pool of youngsters coming through....
decisions, decisions....
I'd be alright with Poch going there IF Pep stays another two years (and Leo comes).
It will be interesting to see what transpires, but my money is on a decision/announcement from Pep in December. If he's staying, he'll have to commit to get the Messi deal closed. Similarly if he isn't staying, I don't think they'll risk losing Poch, I think they'll make the announcement ala Pellegrini announcing Pep.
Only fly in the ointment is the antipathy between Poch and Pep. People very familiar with both men have said that they genuinely can't stand each other. Big big egos. But I hope that the board aren't remotely arsed about that. If Pep's off, doesn't matter who he likes/doesn't like.
Agreed, if Pep does not extend his contract then I would have no qualms in Poch taking over. Both of of them have similar beliefs in the way football should be played and whilst he has not won any trophies yet, I am confident he would be successful at City with the budget available.I still think Poch is by some distance the most likely candidate to replace Pep if he were to not renew next season. In many respects I completely get it. Nagelsman, Rose, Ten Haag et al are different shades of unproven. Poch has done it in the PL consistently.
Lots of people focus on the whole 'what's he won' argument, but that's not hugely interesting for me. Poch is as demanding and exacting at Guardiola is. I'd have no worries if he stepped in because I believe we'd continue at the level we've been at over the last few years.
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I still think Poch is by some distance the most likely candidate to replace Pep if he were to not renew next season. In many respects I completely get it. Nagelsman, Rose, Ten Haag et al are different shades of unproven. Poch has done it in the PL consistently.
Lots of people focus on the whole 'what's he won' argument, but that's not hugely interesting for me. Poch is as demanding and exacting at Guardiola is. I'd have no worries if he stepped in because I believe we'd continue at the level we've been at over the last few years.
Pochettino took a Spurs team to the CL final and ignited their resurgence to be a top 4 team (along with a title race). He is the best candidate if Pep were to decide to leave.
He's already exceeding his longest tenure of 4 years, I do not see him extending further
Pep has talked about this before, he is not a Fergie sort of profile - the job drains you & the players, a reset is needed at some point
Pep has talked about this before, he is not a Fergie sort of profile - the job drains you & the players, a reset is needed at some point
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He's already exceeding his longest tenure of 4 years, I do not see him extending further
Pep has talked about this before, he is not a Fergie sort of profile - the job drains you & the players, a reset is needed at some point
I don’t agree. Wishful thinking on your part. We were told he was only saying 3 years and it will be 5 soon. If he wants to stay as he has hinted then I can see another 2 year deal.
Were would he go? He is comfortable and will not have the same influence or control at another team.
Unless he is bored/burnt out he will sign.
He did 5 years at Barca and needed a year off, he has since then done 3 at Bayern and is in his 5th year with us. I'd wager another year out if he does decide to walk at the end of the season.He's already exceeding his longest tenure of 4 years, I do not see him extending further
Pep has talked about this before, he is not a Fergie sort of profile - the job drains you & the players, a reset is needed at some point
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I would love Pep to stay but with his wife and family back in Spain now instead of Manchester I don’t see it.
The issue is just not if Pep himself is happy, it's the players.I don’t agree. Wishful thinking on your part. We were told he was only saying 3 years and it will be 5 soon. If he wants to stay as he has hinted then I can see another 2 year deal.
Were would he go? He is comfortable and will not have the same influence or control at another team.
Unless he is bored/burnt out he will sign.
A very demanding manager, incredibly intense, how the players react this season will be the real issue.
Also the decision for Pep to stay should not be dependent upon Messi arriving.
I can see pep leaving and poch already being lined up For the job
I think it is time to have a reboot for both parties
Unless messi comes in!
But we will see soon, in next 5 games I can see united sacking ole, so maybe we will see poch intentions then
I think it is time to have a reboot for both parties
Unless messi comes in!
But we will see soon, in next 5 games I can see united sacking ole, so maybe we will see poch intentions then
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So,essentially.....The Pep and Messi show for a maximum of 2 seasons,or Poch for the foreseeable and an opportunity to build his own dynasty.
I'm torn,but if i had to make a decision.....i'm leaning towards the latter.
I'm torn,but if i had to make a decision.....i'm leaning towards the latter.
Wrong, check your facts firstHe did 5 years at Barca and needed a year off, he has since then done 3 at Bayern and is in his 5th year with us. I'd wager another year out if he does decide to walk at the end of the season.
Bring Poch in now to work alongside pep
With promise of job when pep decides to go
Wishful thinking but one of the best established young managers in the game wouldn't be a number 2.
BillyShears
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He's already exceeding his longest tenure of 4 years, I do not see him extending further
Pep has talked about this before, he is not a Fergie sort of profile - the job drains you & the players, a reset is needed at some point
Guardiola has never before had what he has at City, which is why he's still here. As those close to him have said often he is incredibly idiosyncratic and anyone who tells you they know what he'll do next is a liar.
I wouldn't be shocked at all if he signed a new 3 year deal at City, and I wouldn't be shocked if he quits and takes a year out.
Thankfully, my concern isn't with Pep, it's with City. I can see the pros and cons of him staying longer - but I think like he has said often that decision will be made by the players (in their performances) this season.
BillyShears
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I don’t agree. Wishful thinking on your part. We were told he was only saying 3 years and it will be 5 soon. If he wants to stay as he has hinted then I can see another 2 year deal.
Were would he go? He is comfortable and will not have the same influence or control at another team.
Unless he is bored/burnt out he will sign.
I suspect that any self respecting Barcelona supporter pines for Pep's return to the club in some capacity. So I can see why FC Barca is thinking the way he is. But I think it's almost impossible that he returns to Barca in any capacity anytime soon. Maybe when he's fully done with coaching he'll go back as a DoF or something like that. Maybe even run for president. But not anytime soon IMO.
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The issue is just not if Pep himself is happy, it's the players.
A very demanding manager, incredibly intense, how the players react this season will be the real issue.
Also the decision for Pep to stay should not be dependent upon Messi arriving.
I agree it would be madness on his part to go anywhere near Barca at the min and risk his reputation.I suspect that any self respecting Barcelona supporter pines for Pep's return to the club in some capacity. So I can see why FC Barca is thinking the way he is. But I think it's almost impossible that he returns to Barca in any capacity anytime soon. Maybe when he's fully done with coaching he'll go back as a DoF or something like that. Maybe even run for president. But not anytime soon IMO.
Who knows what he will do but the easiest option is an extension as long as the players and club are on the same page.
I don’t buy into the players feeling burnt out. I know Pep is intense but I hope we are not turning into a club that lets players dictate the manager. We had bit of this with previous managers.
The shelf life of a player is small, why would you not want to be managed by the best during that period.
Build and go again with Pep at the helm would be amazing. No guarantees in sport but he will get us back on top.
BamberBridgeBlue
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Whatever Pep does I cannot see him going back to Barcelona at the moment. He left due to toxic politics. Guess what. The politics are worse and they have less money. If Pep does go, it’ll be for another challenge that he’s identified.