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How? It doesnt work.
Its not working now. But the vulnerable really arent protecting themselves. Said earlier, i go in up to 5 houses a day and the older customers are, and i dont say this lightly, a pain in the arse for getting in the way and not distancing.
Saw it in a restaurant last night and a cafe today too.

yes by the healthier cracking on it might mean cases rise but hospital Admissions and Deaths wont. Just stay away from granny
 
If you think politicians care more about what state the country is Left in after this utter shit show than their own legacy then you are very deluded
Makes no sense, If these restrictions are based on nothing how does it improve their legacy, or improve the economy for this governments favourite policy of cutting taxes.
Nobody has explained what the government get out of this if its based on nothing.
 
If your main gripe is gyms potentially being made to close, then in the scheme of things, that is small beer imo.

I'm only using that as an example as it's something I use 5 times a week. Im not into getting my nails done or getting facials but I'm sure those who use salons would have similar opinions.

And yes it is small beer when it comes to the spread so why are they doing it.
 
Perhaps having a month halt on nice leisure activities to keep infections at a tolerable level whilst it spreads through schools and unis on the only real basis to moving forward being that once the initial outbreaks have subsided in these institutions, the infection rate will drop and then we can tolerate the increased infections from leisure activities. Take the edge off the big hit so to speak.

You might be right mate, but they need to tell us this.
 
Its not working now. But the vulnerable really arent protecting themselves. Said earlier, i go in up to 5 houses a day and the older customers are, and i dont say this lightly, a pain in the arse for getting in the way and not distancing.
Saw it in a restaurant last night and a cafe today too.

yes by the healthier cracking on it might mean cases rise but hospital Admissions and Deaths wont. Just stay away from granny

So lets assume we lock all the old and vulnerable away how long do you propose to do so for? Until the much vaunted herd immunity comes?

Now I may have some sympathy with your view were we certain of being a few weeks away from being able to vaccinate those people, and we may be just that but we do not know yet.
 
Makes no sense, If these restrictions are based on nothing how does it improve their legacy, or improve the economy for this governments favourite policy of cutting taxes.
Nobody has explained what the government get out of this if its based on nothing.
Who knows. Strange lot with strange ideas sometimes.
What we do know is that The healthy have an incredible Recovery rate and might feel a bit grotty. I know its simplistic and im trying not to be argumentative as im sure we all want the same outcome
 
I know you are suffering, maybe more than others, I don't know, but I'm sure you are intelligent enough to see and understand we are clearly heading in the wrong direction with infection rates and hospital admissions at a pace not acceptable.

The Government are not taking measures for shits and giggles, nor to piss the North of England off.

They have no obligation to detail to the nth degree as to why and what constraints are deened necessary in trying to reverse the trend, nor do I believe it would be accepted by some.
They do have an obligation in keeping the local councils and population informed. They could also explain why safe Tory seats with infection rates way higher than the infection rate when Greater Manchester was placed into special measures seem to be exempt . They could also explain why only now are they willing to give local health authorities with relevant expertise in track and trace the chance to get involved, or why they have wasted billions on lining the pockets of Serco and others who have fucked everything they touch up . Or maybe they could explain why multi million pound contracts have been awarded to companies with fuck all experience in delivering anything they are contracted to do , probably just a coincidence that most of these new start ups are run by mates and Tory party donors . Basically many people don’t trust a single word these inept wankers come out with .
 
So lets assume we lock all the old and vulnerable away how long do you propose to do so for? Until the much vaunted herd immunity comes?

Now I may have some sympathy with your view were we certain of being a few weeks away from being able to vaccinate those people, and we may be just that but we do not know yet.
Heres the thing, we must assume the government have come to a decision on policy based on vaccine thinking. We have no idea what their thinking is, and they won’t tell us that would be stupid as they’d be held to that.
However they must make decisions on the balance of probability and advice, so lets say they have concluded of the top of my head there is a 70% chance we’ll have vaccine roll out from January completed by April.
They will produce a policy for now based on that, which would be completely different to a policy based on a vaccine expected next summer, or in 12 months, or never.
If they guess wrong then the whole policy could be wrong, we have no idea which model they are working to though , which makes our judgements on current policies harder.
 
I'm only using that as an example as it's something I use 5 times a week. Im not into getting my nails done or getting facials but I'm sure those who use salons would have similar opinions.

And yes it is small beer when it comes to the spread so why are they doing it.
Because they deem it necessary. Yed, you don't agree, but that's what it is
 
At work last night I was driving through Newcastle at 9 30pm. None of the pubs appeared to be social distancing and there was loads of gangs of people walking round in groups. You wouldn't think only this week 2000 students tested positive. Also, none of the pubs appeared to be near closing???
 
They do have an obligation in keeping the local councils and population informed. They could also explain why safe Tory seats with infection rates way higher than the infection rate when Greater Manchester was placed into special measures seem to be exempt . They could also explain why only now are they willing to give local health authorities with relevant expertise in track and trace the chance to get involved, or why they have wasted billions on lining the pockets of Serco and others who have fucked everything they touch up . Or maybe they could explain why multi million pound contracts have been awarded to companies with fuck all experience in delivering anything they are contracted to do , probably just a coincidence that most of these new start ups are run by mates and Tory party donors . Basically many people don’t trust a single word these inept wankers come out with .
But many will follow without questioning. Sheep
 
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