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Back from my lung function tests , that was hard work, did a ventolin test as well to see if improved my lung function and it did by 28-30% which is indicative for asthma , he couldnt tell me much other than i did quite well, CT scan to come then tbe big verdict
 
Back from my lung function tests , that was hard work, did a ventolin test as well to see if improved my lung function and it did by 28-30% which is indicative for asthma , he couldnt tell me much other than i did quite well, CT scan to come then tbe big verdict
Hope you get well soon. I got caught in a sand storm in Afghanistan in the middle of nowhere and had a stay in a field hospital for 10 days touch and go, been on Ventolin ever since thus using a bit of common sense in this nightmare.
 
Deluded the lot of them, bar full of people drinking in a high infection area think Pubs are safe. Top tip use your common sense.

No they're not, they are asking for evidence to support shutting their businesses down. If it's that obvious then surely there is loads of scientific evidence. The only people that are deluded are those wanting and supporting these additional measures that are seemingly based on nothing. Manchester numbers are well down this week, why are they proposing more restrictions?
 
Have a bit of respect and class fella, its obvious she has been struggling since she caught Covid.

Wasn't meant to be disrespectful so sorry off it came across that way. As far as we know Boris hasn't got long covid, if he has and is struggling then fair enough, we should acknowledge that and accept him not being as active in his role.
 
Deluded the lot of them, bar full of people drinking in a high infection area think Pubs are safe. Top tip use your common sense.
Close the pubs not following the current rules by all means. I went for my weekly few pints yesterday and Woodies were fully compliant.

If pubs have to shut then so be it but a lot of people will pay a significant price and they deserve to know what the evidence is IMHO. I was chatting to somebody who works in a bar in Leeds and she won’t get furloughed. That’s somebody who won’t be able to afford their rent.
 
No they're not, they are asking for evidence to support shutting their businesses down. If it's that obvious then surely there is loads of scientific evidence. The only people that are deluded are those wanting and supporting these additional measures that are seemingly based on nothing. Manchester numbers are well down this week, why are they proposing more restrictions?
I don't need evidence I use common sense to stay out of them, as I said I don't need anyone to tell me how to conduct myself in a Pandemic of this magnitude. Each to their own we all have different circumstances, not sure Manchester number are well down though, do you read @Healdplace excellent daily updates ?
 
Hope you get well soon. I got caught in a sand storm in Afghanistan in the middle of nowhere and had a stay in a field hospital for 10 days touch and go, been on Ventolin ever since thus using a bit of common sense in this nightmare.
Thanks , i am mourning my perfect lungs , march 1st, i am glad i sung and shouted all day, good way to go out , sigh
 
Deluded the lot of them, bar full of people drinking in a high infection area think Pubs are safe. Top tip use your common sense.

Adults in pubs drinking responsibly, wearing mask a d distancing more safe than a college class of adolecents ignoring the rules and their tutors sitting together unmasked amd no distancing in groups of 6+
 
Close the pubs not following the current rules by all means. I went for my weekly few pints yesterday and Woodies were fully compliant.

If pubs have to shut then so be it but a lot of people will pay a significant price and they deserve to know what the evidence is IMHO. I was chatting to somebody who works in a bar in Leeds and she won’t get furloughed. That’s somebody who won’t be able to afford their rent.
I am not saying shut Pubs as I think long term if the economy is further in the shit it suits nobody, what I am saying is use common sense, if you think you are vulnerable then take the common sense approach.
 
I don't need evidence I use common sense to stay out of them, as I said I don't need anyone to tell me how to conduct myself in a Pandemic of this magnitude. Each to their own we all have different circumstances, not sure Manchester number are well down though, do you read @Healdplace excellent daily updates ?

The MEN have a headline article on it today, same stats that Healdplace puts in her daily updates, even if she was ahead of them as usual.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...anchester-past-coronavirus-peak-just-19087258
 
Adults in pubs drinking responsibly, wearing mask a d distancing more safe than a college class of adolecents ignoring the rules and their tutors sitting together unmasked amd no distancing in groups of 6+
I have not been in a Pub since first lockdown so cannot comment but seen in the press how the said adolescents are sticking by the rules or rather not, let me make myself clear Pubs must be able to continue trading for the economy but if folk really think it is a safe environment to do so then as I said they are deluded.
 
How are we supposed to kee[ track of the escalating costs associated with Covid?

It's all going to have to be paid back at some point and when the time comes I suspect it will make austerity look like a walk in the park, The cynic in me suspects the Government will be using this as an excuse to make cuts for many many years after the true figure has been repaid.
 
I have not been in a Pub since first lockdown so cannot comment but seen in the press how the said adolescents are sticking by the rules or rather not, let me make myself clear Pubs must be able to continue trading for the economy but if folk really think it is a safe environment to do so then as I said they are deluded.

It's rubbish. No doubt out of however many thousands of pubs there are there will be some that at some point have been like that. A picture doesn't represent the whole nation and pictures of pubs with everyone enjoying a socially distanced pint doesn't make a story. I've been out a couple of times and believe me it has been nothing like that. It was actually that much of a hassle I decided to not even bother going to town again. Only local pubs or restaurants.
 
The demand is for the government's scientific data and advice.

Because they know they've been sitting on ALL of data and modelling, guarding it jealously since January.

It's the Bojo-Cummings way. If they can't see the thinking, don't have access to the information, the public can't criticise (most get bored), and have little choice but to go along, or realise they are in danger of getting wound up about something that they don't have enough information about to really form a sound opinion.

This is exactly how the Brexit negotiations and prep have been handled. Nothing is made public, or available to outsiders. They drop some spiel to the commentators and other political players that this is all part of the plan for getting the best deal - game theory (LMAO). But it isn't that, at all. It's because there's no point anyone on the outside with half a fucking brain cell talking about something where we don't know what's in the player's mind. You can't criticise a process you haven't got ANY information about. Not even helpfully. And that's the idea. Someone else's bright suggestion might make the primary players look pretty fucking stupid for not coming up with it.

Politically, getting hold of this information really is a big prize. The regions will in all likelyhood make No 10 and the other Central Control Committees look like they've not even been fucking trying.

Then the govt are facing not only a massive barage of criticism on their shit decision making and low-effort response, but it will have big public support as people percieve, if our lot did better, then why didn't they? It's simple psychology. Keeping people ignorant. If you find yourself in a room where the only thing you are ever served is gruel, and all you see anyone else get is gruel, then it takes about three weeks and a bit of rationing before you are very greatful to the person on the other end of that all important-hatch. That's this fucking country for the last year.

The advisors, and everyone else, are being held hostage by Gove, Cummings and Bojo at this point. Trust me. Seen it all before, one way or another. They are walking on eggshells, scared out of their wits. A bit confused in all likelyhood, which helps them forget that they were initially very angry that it's worked like this, maybe were even pushing for more openness. There aren't many with a scientific background who are happy to hide their work and forgoe the chance of incorporating other people's critiques and suggestions.
 
They’ve not got a bloody clue and like you say just doing things for the sake of it. Earlier in the year when the lockdown was happening in Rochdale one councillor came on and said that one street in the area was Rochdale council at one end and Oldham the other!!

Now Gyms are being shut in Liverpool so how are they expected to keep healthy now, go cycling or running in the middle of winter? That’s going to help with colds and flus isn’t it!
Stop eating shite would help.
 
What an utter shambles the government is. Leaks to the press last week and the leaders of the cities involved are the last to know. Wow. And they wonder why people lost faith in them months ago?
 
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