2020 US Elections

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SWP's back said:
I just don’t understand why “pro life” as oppose to “pro choice” seems to only be political in the US. The rest of the first world moved in from that shite 40 years ago.
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The puritanical streak that runs through this nation is astounding. It all really stems from attitudes about sex, not about life (cf. our perspective on capital punishment, and guns).
 
Gaudion M said:
I remember reading around the time of Obama's first term that demographic changes were going to kill of the GOP dominance in a couple of years and that they would have to change or die. What happened is they didn't change they just went for massive scale gerrymandering and voter suppression. But even that is not going to help - the issue being that if the Dems now step in and reverse some of the gerrymandering then the GOP are screwed.
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Down ballot and State/local appointments are apparently key to preventing redistricting becoming even more skewed. The 2018 Congress elections had a big down ballot effect and if Biden can keep his polling numbers up then the same should happen again. Hopefully.
 
Anyone want to hazard a guess which colour (red/bluethis this county is?



I’m sure some fucking idiot will explain it away for us and explain how the Dems are really the ones suppressing voting and making it harder to vote if you’re less well off or minority.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
F*cking child.

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Trevor Morley's Tache said:
No doubt MAGAt's are utterly outraged my this blatant assault on their freedom.
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The President of the United States politicized a health care crisis. I said it before, and I'll keep saying it: this will go down as the single biggest blunder in the heretofore known history of Presidential blunders.

But Joe Biden -- or any other "neolib" -- would have made the same mistake. In fact, any politician except for a Progressive approved with the simon-pure Bigga seal of authenticity -- would have made the same mistake.

Because they're all the same.

Right? Right.

Yeah . . . not right.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Of course they were involved....

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I mean, wait until all the insider books come out. Wait til a real investigative reporter or the IGO of some agency gets under the skirts of this Administration after it drifts away, and they really go to town with no one to obfuscate, object, misdirect and lie (you've already posted some stuff moving in this direction; today even :)). You know goddamn good and well what will be found will make this look like Mnuchin dipping his finger in the Postmaster General's birthday cake for a taste of frosting by comparison. You KNOW it.

But remember . . . they're "all the same." That's what our resident expert on America (who's ever been here) says. All the same. So it doesn't matter who we vote for. All the same. Arch-criminal. All the same. Foreign agent. All the same. Super-spreader. All the same.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
"Look how sh*t they are. Vote for me".

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The desperation is palpable - three weeks and he knows he is facing jail time or at least the rest of his life in court battling tax-dodging charges, Russian involvement charges the list is endless. Plus he knows if he is in hock to Putin then Putin won't let him take the stand
 
bluethrunthru said:
The desperation is palpable - three weeks and he knows he is facing jail time or at least the rest of his life in court battling tax-dodging charges, Russian involvement charges the list is endless. Plus he knows if he is in hock to Putin then Putin won't let him take the stand
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We’ll see if he’s immune to Novichok as well as Covid after 21 Jan.
 
SWP's back said:
So we’re all agreed that Dax is/was and always likely will spout bullshit about this. Well done Dax on bringing the right, left and centre of the British political spectrum together in unison.
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Too bad none of you all matter in the greater scheme of things. :) So I'm not particularly worried.

I'm simply pointing out the different philosophies the underpin both Political partied positions as it relates suppression and fraud.

Both concerns are legitimate. Screams of false equivalency are ridiculous when both done well can change elections.

It's the knife vs gun violence argument. They are not the same, sure! But both kill just the sane when used properly..
 
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domalino said:
You know this is a lie. Why do you bother repeating it?

Even the republicans don't pretend this is true -

“Traditionally it’s always been Republicans suppressing votes in places. Let’s start protecting our voters. We know where they are ... Let’s start playing offense a little bit. That’s what you’re going to see in 2020. It’s going to be a much bigger program, a much more aggressive program, a much better-funded program.”

“The things they had in there were crazy. They had things, levels of voting that if you’d ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again,”

“I don’t want everybody to vote,” Paul Weyrich, an influential conservative activist, said in 1980. “As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”

Mitch McConnell called the democrats voting rights act, and law which would let more people vote by making elections a national holiday "a power grab". Because everyone fucking knows that the Republicans only win if they can disenfranchise millions of people.
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This is a ridiculous response to my post.

In principle, Republicans only want legal voters, and Democrats want ease of access for voting.

Yet, outside the philosophical underpinnings both use tactics that disenfranchises.
Illegal Suppression disenfranchises. Fraudulent voting disenfranchises.

Ease of access to voting makes fraud more likely, while draconian requirement disenfranchises.
Really isn't very complicated.
 
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Dax777 said:
This is a ridiculous response to my post.

In principle, Republicans only want legal voters, and Democrats want ease of access for voting.

Yet, outside the philosophical underpinnings both use tactics that disenfranchises.
Illegal Suppression disenfranchises. Fraudulent voting disenfranchises.

Ease of access to voting makes fraud more likely, while draconian requirement disenfranchises.
Really isn't very complicated.
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Dax.

Republicans want only Republicans to vote, and they are publicly on record as saying they want to suppress and disenfranchise as many people as possible because it's how they win.

Democrats want everyone who is legally able to vote, to be able to vote easily and quickly.


The Democratic position is the position of every first world country. No one in the UK or Germany or France or Italy or Canada thinks that letting people vote easily leads to voter fraud because it's fucking bullshit. And all these western democracies manage to have fair elections without throwing up every possible roadblock to voting possible.
 
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