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A pay rise is surely a given. If only as the government will gain kudos for giving it and no politician misses a trick on giving pay rises when it reflects well on them.

I just think it would be nice for a long lasting thank you from wider societry as we all have had cause to be grateful. And will doubtless have to do so again in future.

A once a year day to remember that they do this not just during a pandemic where everyone can do something small or large to say thank you and a bit more meaningful than applause would remind us all of that.

Just ;ike we do with remembrance Sunday.
 
domalino said:
I've been told the same by a friend who is an anaesthetist in Bristol.

They have made huge advances in treating people since March and relative to back then very few people need ventilators.
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A week or so ago I posted some figures that showed that the number of ventilators to patients is clearly not as high as it was during the first wave in April, So that certainly is being born out.
 
Healdplace said:
A pay rise is surely a given. If only as the government will gain kudos for giving it and no politician misses a trick on giving pay rises when it reflects well on them.

I just think it would be nice for a long lasting thank you from wider societry as we all have had cause to be grateful. And will doubtless have to do so again in future.

A once a year day to remember that they do this not just during a pandemic where everyone can do something small or large to say thank you and a bit more meaningful than applause would remind us all of that.

Just ;ike we do with remembrance Sunday.
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I thought the initial outbreak and reaction would make everyone re-evaluate their lives and what is really important but alas they are self centred and sadly when more normal times return will revert to type
 
About 10% of patients in hospital in England now with Covid are on a ventilator.

At the peak on April 12 in wave one it was 2837 ventilated patients and 17, 172 patients.

Considerably more than as 10% then would be just 1717.

Currently we are just under 30% of the Covid patient numbers we were at peak in England but only about 18% of the ventilator patients.

In the NW the numbers are 1785 patients now and were 2890 at the peak - so this region is well above the national average of reaching that past capacity level with about 62% of the numbers (over double the UK average).

But ventilators are now 161 out of the 350 on them at the peak in the NW - which is only about 46% of those numbers.

That is - though - well over the national average in the region again.

But even here with worse numbers than in much of the UK the numbers on ventilators are still down on April. Not to the same extent but enough to be within capacity limits comfortably it seems.

Unless there is still a very large increase still to come. Which we all hope not.
 
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Been reading New York State’s vaccination plan and was interested to see that as one criterion it intends to prioritise vaccination by geographical area as well, so prioritising those in areas hardest hit. Other States adopt different approaches but all are rapidly filing then with the CDC.
 
Healdplace said:
About 10% of patients in hospital in England now with Covid are on ventilator.

At the peak on April 12 in wave one it was 2837 ventilated patients and 17, 172 patients.

Considerably more than 10%.
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At the peak of the first wave it was found CPAP machines were effective at keeping people off ventilators. Unfortunately after the great rush to produce ventilators that turned out not to be used( plus all those that new producers tried to produce that didn’t work and never made it out of the factories) there was a shortage of CPAP machines.
I don’t know, but would assume a stock of CPAPs have been built up over the summer and these should be being used to reduce those needing ventilators.
 
blueparrot said:
At the peak of the first wave it was found CPAP machines were effective at keeping people off ventilators. Unfortunately after the great rush to produce ventilators that turned out not to be used( plus all those that new producers tried to produce that didn’t work and never made it out of the factories) there was a shortage of CPAP machines.
I don’t know, but would assume a stock of CPAPs have been built up over the summer and these should be being used to reduce those needing ventilators.
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Don't hold your breath. Sorry for the unfortunate turn of phrase but that would have been the logical thing to do therefore probably hasn't been
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
My mate is one of the top docs at Manchester Infirmary.

Quite surprisingly, he is saying a lack of ventilators aren't an issue and doesn't expect them to be.

He is more worried about staffing levels and beds.
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Yup. ICU pretty much full and spilling in to more general wards. All well and good having the nightingale, though how the hell are they going to staff it?
 
mosssideblue said:
Who is claiming that?
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I’m just looking at the latest data. As always, we don’t know whether the current trend of positive tests decreasing will continue but there seems absolutely no case for Manchester going up to Tier 3 at the moment.

Manchester continues its decline in positive tests which started on 3rd Oct. Oldham, Salford, Stockport & Trafford also decreasing at 13 Oct (latest date when data reliable). GM as a whole still flat (actually down 0.5% on 13 Oct).

Every Tier 3 Mersey borough saw decrease in 7-day ave positive tests by specimen date on 13th Oct, latest date when data should be reliable. Merseyside have started decreasing (slowly) on 10 Oct, so relating to infections from perhaps 3 Oct, long before Tier 3 could have any effect. If I owned a gym or a pub on Merseyside I might be a tad disappointed.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Fair dos, that was OTT.

There's a lot of highly misleading stuff posted here that's obviously wrong, and frustration hit the better of me.

It could have been even worse - that was posted after a win!

Apologies @BigJoe#1
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No problem, and thank you.

You are 100% correct about frustration.

The only thing that keeps me sane is that I know it's only my opinion and highly unlikely to have a massive, much, little or most likely no influence on others.
 
kaz7 said:
It hasnt , we are going into winter , there will be very hard months ahead , does anyone read the relevant experts stuff i post ?
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Reading about NHS capacity problems and hard months ahead. In September 2019 there were 2123345 A & E attendances and 529903 emergency admissions. In September 2020 there were 1692079 A & E attendances and 479800 emergency admissions. This year currently looks like other years but a bit quieter at the minute.

https://england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2020-21/
 
Not directly related to Covid19 but....

Speaking to my neighbour today and he told me about his brother who died.

He went to hospital on Tuesday last week with a bleeding nose that he couldn't stop. He was admitted and on Friday he passed away.

His wife phoned the hospital on Saturday to be told.... and this is the gods honest...

Death certificate was issued, he was processed boxed up (his words) sent to the crematorium and cremated - his wife knew nothing about it until she phoned in the Saturday.

They live in an area that is not suffering massively with Covid at the moment..... unbelievable.

And no, we don't know what was put on the certificate!
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Reading about NHS capacity problems and hard months ahead. In September 2019 there were 2123345 A & E attendances and 529903 emergency admissions. In September 2020 there were 1692079 A & E attendances and 479800 emergency admissions. This year currently looks like other years but a bit quieter at the minute.

https://england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2020-21/
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Every year for the last decade or more has seen us suffering national shortages, beds, staff etc... (not patients). When it comes about this year, as it will, Hancock and co. will be laying the blame squarely at the door if CV19... mark my words.

Just hope the journalists have the bottle to call him out on it!
 
andyhinch said:
It’s only on gummers how, great pub I’d recommend it only a 10 minute drive from fell foot park
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Seeing as you 2 are discussing the lakes on here, I'm going there next week (haven site in Flookburgh) - is there a decent pub with bt sports where I can watch the match? Preferably with something decent to do close by (for a 6 year old) so can go and do something afterwards
 
nmc said:
It’s worse than that... student nurses pay tuition fees and work for the NHS unpaid for large periods during their training.
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Not sure this is the case everywhere mate but 2 women I know got bursaries. It covered all their uni fees and an amount towards living costs.
It may be different depending on other circumstances, but they definitely did not may towards their tuition (and rightly so)
 
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