Porto (h) post-match thread

[ami]

Better become a real cule then and join @ FCBarca , as you both talk and think alike.

I wouldn’t know who that muppet is but you clearly suffer hearing some truth.
I guess I’m banned any minute now for liking a player (who is still OUR player btw) but could end up playing for another club within a year, which would make me a traitor.

I assume you guys are grown men but I don’t understand why some here can’t have an argument without getting offended like a 16 year old girl.

I rate Eric over John. End of. It doesn’t make me a Barcelona fan. I’m a City fan and I hope he stays because that would be good news for our team. I’m clearly better than you at identifying talent.

 

[chaddblue]

Didn't want Garcia playing after refusing a contract but thought he was decent today.

I didn’t.. and he dragged Dias down with him.

but Cancelo was the worst of the lot

thank god for Walker who is probably playing the best football of his city career at the moment

 

[The perfect fumble]

 

[The Colonel]

Rodent and Torres didn’t change the game. They were able though to exploit

Yeah but the pattern of the game was because he (and others)kept passing backwards, sideways or giving it away.

He wasn’t the worst culprit there. Having said that, Porto had 11 behind the ball most of the time, after the goal our subs and forwards were granted more space to exploit abd be more progressive.

 

[paulchapo]

Probably Garcia played tonight because we were short of numbers and fitness from players that were available. I honestly don't want to discuss his merits or anything about him. He has expressed he doesn't want to stay and he wants to return to Barcelona. From that statement he was dead to me and he should have been to the club. He may or may not turn out to be a top centre back but it won't be for us as he will be gone so there's no point in speculating. Please God Laporte and Dias stay fit and we only see him if we have to in league cup games.

 

[LucahArchie10]

Wow where do you start, so many poor performances inc the manager

That 1st 50 minutes was fooking toothache very very poor at times, we really struggle to develop breaking that defending middle & constantly give ball after ball away

What the fook was Cancelo on tonight?

Garcia is weak as piss & Rodri is just not good enough

Picking up those balls off Eddy & fullbacks only happens when Rodri has 20 yards of space its to slow often when he starts we start really slow
Fuck knows what we do now Dino is out, 6 weeks is a long time thats around 12 games

People have a dig about Gundagun but it starts imo from when Rodri gets it

2nd half was much better but Phil & Toress made it quicker around the link ups & shorter & quicker passing definately changed it

Walker was mom for me & Dias settled down after a bad mistake

Pep, not got a clue why Dino comes on with 10 mins to go, crazy substitution for me he was never warmed up the guy is 34 not 24

Easy after the event just dont get it?

Put this 1 out there?

Sergio looks like hes wearing lead boots in quicksand

Rodri for me is back up at best

LB is still a massive problem

Injuries dont get any easier, Peps intense training & workload isn't helping compared to other clubs, all teams are playing so no excuses yes Champs League gives us an extra 6 games this next 2 months

If Messi is coming in January then great, waiting for Summer for another fwd would be wrong imo

Also with Dino struggling would you go for Declan Rice or Calvin Philips??

2 decent young England lads that would give us 10 years service

Go get 1 of them with Messi & Ake to solve LB

Thoughts please??

 

[big phil]

My issue with Garcia has nothing to do with him wanting to return to Barca. As someone pointed out a few pages ago he will probably do well there. But the kid gets horribly exposed in our system and his limitations are there for all to see. He can’t help being a short arse, but Puyol wasn’t tall. He can’t help being slow, but Terry was no Usain Bolt. I also happen to think he’s poor positionally and can’t tackle for toffee. Apart from that I think he’s tops.

 

[cleavers]

Ask Pep not me . He wouldn't play again if up to me.

We do have something of an injury crisis, so we need to use what we have registered. I'm not his greatest fan either, but he plays because we don't have many alternative, yes Stones and Bellis were on the bench, but none of us know their fitness either.

Navigating this season is going to be tough, so we need all we can use right now, another potential CB lost tonight.

 

[Javi Garcia's Hairstylist]

I thought it was Pep that announced that Garcia wanted to leave ahead of the Madrid game?

Garcia tells Pep, Pep announces it? Either way he can fuck right off. Keep it to yourself till the CL campaign is over.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I didn’t.. and he dragged Dias down with him.

Every fucking player who plays around him has become shit & nervous.

Walker tbf has recovered from trying to wipe Garcia's arse previously. Dias now going through it after Laporte etc.

I'm fucking sick of it.

 

[cleavers]

Hopefully he gave the back four a good talk after the game. Was really poor all round for the goal.

Including Dias, so hopefully he bollocked himself as well.

 

[andyhinch]

Always wanted to start one of these!!

fire away.

I can't get up for it without going

 

[Drewmanc]

I know I'll probably be shot down for this but it's sometimes best to be critical after a win as you look back without the anger of the loss. Cancelo had a stinker and is not the left back we need, zinchenko is the better option now he's fit. Garcia and Dias had good games and the latter is settling well. Walker is having a storming season and played well again. Rodri isn't the answer to Fernandinho and I'm not sure what he is the answer to. Not mobile enough, doesn't take one for the team and plays very slowly and not through the lines. Ilkay got a pass for a fantastic free kick but other than that he was poor and doesn't bring much to the team. Silva had a poor game by his standards and need so reach the Liverpool game standards again as there is a fantastic player in there. The front 3 did what they had to do, Sterling looks great amd played well and Aguero is working back into form, terrible penner though. Mahrez was just Mahrez, all left foot. Step overs. Greedy. Plays with his head down and is out for himself most of the time. Foden was exactly what was needed to inject pace and creativity and tenacity and him and Torres linked up well but the overall final score line flattered really. All that being said Porto were diving, cheating, nasty bastards and we had zero protection from the refs. I'm sure they waited so long on the pen as they were dying to over rule a blatent foul with Ilkays accidental clip of the goalies leg.
We need a left back and I have no idea why that hasn't been addressed and we need to find a replacement for Ferns replacement.

 

[andyhinch]

I can't get up for it without going

Your first new topic and it’s been merged ;-)

 

[Neville Kneville]

Wow where do you start, so many poor performances inc the manager

That 1st 50 minutes was fooking toothache very very poor at times, we really struggle to develop breaking that defending middle & constantly give ball after ball away

What the fook was Cancelo on tonight?

Garcia is weak as piss & Rodri is just not good enough

Picking up those balls off Eddy & fullbacks only happens when Rodri has 20 yards of space its to slow often when he starts we start really slow
Fuck knows what we do now Dino is out, 6 weeks is a long time thats around 12 games

People have a dig about Gundagun but it starts imo from when Rodri gets it

2nd half was much better but Phil & Toress made it quicker around the link ups & shorter & quicker passing definately changed it

Walker was mom for me & Dias settled down after a bad mistake

Pep, not got a clue why Dino comes on with 10 mins to go, crazy substitution for me he was never warmed up the guy is 34 not 24

Easy after the event just dont get it?

Put this 1 out there?

Sergio looks like hes wearing lead boots in quicksand

Rodri for me is back up at best

LB is still a massive problem

Injuries dont get any easier, Peps intense training & workload isn't helping compared to other clubs, all teams are playing so no excuses yes Champs League gives us an extra 6 games this next 2 months

If Messi is coming in January then great, waiting for Summer for another fwd would be wrong imo

Also with Dino struggling would you go for Declan Rice or Calvin Philips??

2 decent young England lads that would give us 10 years service

Go get 1 of them with Messi & Ake to solve LB

Thoughts please??

No to Rice & Phillips from me.

Not a fan of Gundogan but I agree he wasn't the main offender tonight.

Rodri was often stood directly with a player between him & the ball, leaving no out ball, exactly how Pep coaches players not to position themselves. When he did appear, there was often no point in passing to him as he just played it where it came from.

I'd rather have a player there who is seriously good at winning the ball stopping attacks or creating & shit at the other, than one who is average at both.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

I thought Mahrez was the worst player on the pitch by some distance.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Including Dias, so hopefully he bollocked himself as well.

It was a shit pass, but we rarely score from the same situation.

 

[Gingers Dad]

I know I'll probably be shot down for this but it's sometimes best to be critical after a win as you look back without the anger of the loss. Cancelo had a stinker and is not the left back we need, zinchenko is the better option now he's fit. Garcia and Dias had good games and the latter is settling well. Walker is having a storming season and played well again. Rodri isn't the answer to Fernandinho and I'm not sure what he is the answer to. Not mobile enough, doesn't take one for the team and plays very slowly and not through the lines. Ilkay got a pass for a fantastic free kick but other than that he was poor and doesn't bring much to the team. Silva had a poor game by his standards and need so reach the Liverpool game standards again as there is a fantastic player in there. The front 3 did what they had to do, Sterling looks great amd played well and Aguero is working back into form, terrible penner though. Mahrez was just Mahrez, all left foot. Step overs. Greedy. Plays with his head down and is out for himself most of the time. Foden was exactly what was needed to inject pace and creativity and tenacity and him and Torres linked up well but the overall final score line flattered really. All that being said Porto were diving, cheating, nasty bastards and we had zero protection from the refs. I'm sure they waited so long on the pen as they were dying to over rule a blatent foul with Ilkays accidental clip of the goalies leg.
We need a left back and I have no idea why that hasn't been addressed and we need to find a replacement for Ferns replacement.

Agree with most of that

 

[Gingers Dad]

No to Rice & Phillips from me.

Not a fan of Gundogan but I agree he wasn't the main offender tonight.

Rodri was often stood directly with a player between him & the ball, leaving no out ball, exactly how Pep coaches players not to position themselves. When he did appear, there was often no point in passing to him as he just played it where it came from.

I'd rather have a player there who is seriously good at winning the ball stopping attacks or creating & shit at the other, than one who is average at both.

Eric Dier?

 

[Neville Kneville]

Eric Dier?

Paul Pogba ?