Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

cleavers said:
Why ? None of them will be playing every 3/4 days before christmas, just every 6/7/8.

The real problem at the moment is injuries, we don't have a settled defence, we've been playing an unfit striker or no striker, and the midfield has missed it's best player, and when he returned yesterday, he looked like a shadow of the player we need.


Nothing to do with ruthlessness, it's all to do with having to rotate the fit players to play ever 3/4 days for 4 months.
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The why for me is they are probably playing there best 11 and don't have the squad depth, obviously Leicester didn't either so that could happen. Villa will be nowhere near,and Leeds tend to slow down after Christmas under Bielsa. If I was to put money on anyone doing a Lecester it would be Everton. Otherwise think the top 4 will be made up of Us, Liverpool and 2 of spurs arsenal chelsea, not sure united will make it and Everton as the wild card. With us or liverpool winning it on 80 -85 points.
 
Pablo1 said:
I prefer to look at reasons why the results haven’t been good enough and try and add a bit of context.
If the poor results were down to a managerial great suddenly becoming shite and not having a clue then I’d be happy to see him go. As it stands I don’t and I don’t.
Football may be a results business but it’s not what makes me support City and it’s why I’m not going to give up on Pep just because we are having a tough time atm.
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How do you square all that with his contractual situation? You think it's okay that he can just string this along or do you think he has to tell the club before the season is over what he wants to do?
 
Pablo1 said:
I prefer to look at reasons why the results haven’t been good enough and try and add a bit of context.
If the poor results were down to a managerial great suddenly becoming shite and not having a clue then I’d be happy to see him go. As it stands I don’t and I don’t.
Football may be a results business but it’s not what makes me support City and it’s why I’m not going to give up on Pep just because we are having a tough time atm.
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We definitely have a number of issues presently with a mounting injury list and problems attacking and breaking teams down. But we are still very early into the season and If we win our game in hand (no guarantees of that I appreciate) then we are only 2 points behind the Dippers.

Heading into the new year if we are 5/6 points off the leaders then I think it is game on and hopefully with a fit squad we can put a winning run together. However, having said all of above we need our injured players to return quickly and I would also look at the possibility of buying a new forward in the January.
 
BillyShears said:
How do you square all that with his contractual situation? You think it's okay that he can just string this along or do you think he has to tell the club before the season is over what he wants to do?
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I reckon he’s not stringing this along at all, Pep and the club know exactly what his plans are.

They both have to manage this and plan accordingly.
 
Shirley said:
I reckon he’s not stringing this along at all, Pep and the club know exactly what his plans are.

They both have to manage this and plan accordingly.
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They're managing it really really badly then. It is in absolutely nobody's interests that questions regarding Pep's future should dominate whilst the season is ongoing. And they are absolutely going to dominate the narrative moving forward.

It's also worth noting the players are absolutely in the dark about what Pep plans on doing next. I'm not sure again, just how conducive that is to getting the best out of them.

It was always going to be the case this season IMO, that if results/performances weren't good enough the uncertainty around Pep's personal future would become a serious issue. I fear we're heading in that direction.
 
TFC said:
I think things will dramatically improve as the season progresses, but this will be our last season with Pep.
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That would be my reading of the situation too. I would love it if Pep stayed, but equally if he goes its with my blessing and he owes us nothing. I believe his legacy and future influence will stand us in great stead.

Ask me again though if we appoint Brendan unleash the crowd Rodgers as his replacement.
 
BillyShears said:
How do you square all that with his contractual situation? You think it's okay that he can just string this along or do you think he has to tell the club before the season is over what he wants to do?
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I think both Pep and the club are aware of what's going to happen and have repeatedly said that they are comfortable with the situation.
I expect players will have an idea as well. For us fans it can be frustrating of course but I don't see the same situation as what happened with Manuel going on. I think what's going on on the pitch right now is down to many factors - Peps contract situation would be quite low down though imo.
Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong though, but keep that between ourselves.. :-)
 
Everton doing well as they have played less games.

Everton will have only played 9 games after today's game compared to city playing twice a week and far more games with 8.

Nothing to do with Everton having a good manager.
 
I would be interested to see what the result of a vote along the following lines would be:

Option 1: extension to contract by 1 or 2 seasons
Option 2: leave

i want him to stay but I would not really want him to sign in say April for just one more year as it just feels like too temporary and then I can see the players being too comfortable.

for what it’s worth I don’t believe current form is down to anything to do with contract situation and it’s personel/injuries. If sterling didn’t have to go up front yesterday and we had a proper finisher taking those chances you would have been more confident about taking one and getting the win. Same at Leeds, yes we conceeded a lot of chances but again a finisher and we could have won and be sitting on 12 points with game in hand to go top.
 
Corky said:
Everton doing well as they have played less games.

Everton will have only played 9 games after today's game compared to city playing twice a week and far more games with 8.

Nothing to do with Everton having a good manager.
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Everton have a good manager, City have a good manager. Your point as always is just a childlike insistence that Pep is just a shit Alan Ball.
 
BillyShears said:
They're managing it really really badly then. It is in absolutely nobody's interests that questions regarding Pep's future should dominate whilst the season is ongoing. And they are absolutely going to dominate the narrative moving forward.

It's also worth noting the players are absolutely in the dark about what Pep plans on doing next. I'm not sure again, just how conducive that is to getting the best out of them.

It was always going to be the case this season IMO, that if results/performances weren't good enough the uncertainty around Pep's personal future would become a serious issue. I fear we're heading in that direction.
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If there’s no hint of him signing on then there will also be huge rumours in the new year with regards to who is being approached to potentially take over.

If Pep were to leave then there’s no way we could keep a successor secret until the end of the season imo and that may lead to more instability as it did in Pelegrini’s final season.
 
Pablo1 said:
I think both Pep and the club are aware of what's going to happen and have repeatedly said that they are comfortable with the situation.
I expect players will have an idea as well. For us fans it can be frustrating of course but I don't see the same situation as what happened with Manuel going on. I think what's going on on the pitch right now is down to many factors - Peps contract situation would be quite low down though imo.
Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong though, but keep that between ourselves.. :-)
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I hope you're right - because if this isn't all tied into Pep's future, then I have far more hope that the players collectively can turn a corner, especially the attacking ones.
 
BillyShears said:
They're managing it really really badly then. It is in absolutely nobody's interests that questions regarding Pep's future should dominate whilst the season is ongoing. And they are absolutely going to dominate the narrative moving forward.

It's also worth noting the players are absolutely in the dark about what Pep plans on doing next. I'm not sure again, just how conducive that is to getting the best out of them.

It was always going to be the case this season IMO, that if results/performances weren't good enough the uncertainty around Pep's personal future would become a serious issue. I fear we're heading in that direction.
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Can’t disagree with that all but everyone in the world knows Pep was only brought in to win the CL so the hierarchy are giving him one last chance ;-)
 
Pablo1 said:
Everton have a good manager, City have a good manager. Your point as always is just a childlike insistence that Pep is just a shit Alan Ball.
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How was that my point?

Ball was sacked after 3 games of a season, my point was he wasn't just judged on those 3 game. Also pep is being judged on these 5 or 8 games so far.
 
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