COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Sort of. The page I get these stats from is https://www.travellingtabby.com/uk-coronavirus-tracker/

It's a really well put together site. Mainly Scotland focused however there is a tab for the UK as a whole near the top, click on that and have a scroll down and there's all sorts of info. Think the Scottish stuff is a bit more in depth but there is still a graph with the age range of every daily infection in the uk as a whole. The deaths ages I think are just in total though rather than daily.

Cheers. Very informative that site.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Jesus what society do you want to live in?

A pussy run shit hole,where lefty types offer excuses for every cvnt,and why such cvnts think they can behave as they want,without repercussion.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Regional scoreboard:

London 2056 - up from 1588

Midlands 3254 - down from 4159

North East - up just 7 to 1170

Yorkshire up to 3800 from 3638.

North West - down over 500 to 4045. Lowest in 9 days.

This is the smallest gap between Yorkshire and NW in some time.

Better day for the region.

London looks the next hotspot

 

[kaz7]

So why would you be so insistent that a virus that does nothing to the majority of people be allowed ruin ruin some many people life’s. I get you got it bad, and hope you recover but for the vast majority of the population they won’t get it as bad.

All a lockdown does is pause the spread - it won’t stop it, nothing will. The economy cannot carry on like this.

I’ve personally been lucky that my job is (touch wood) still needed. But I have seen far more people suffering through the damage to the economy than I have from getting this virus. Life is short and we cannot spend it existing by running away from something that only efforts a small amount of the population. Life should be enjoyable- being told to say in a box isn’t enjoyable.

Because we can all spread it ,the more the cases are the more will die and suffer life changing damage it is not all about individuals

We have to slow the spread to get through the winter , there is literally no other way to keep the nhs going

As an ex nurse i want the nhs to keep going and i dont want anyone to get it and long covid , that is affecting all age groups and even if you had mild symptoms

There is no easy answer, every which way is shite

Look at it this way , we have about five more months to get through till it easiest off and we have a vaccine or two and better treatments , a year in total of being inconvienced by a deadly virus spread all around the world, did you expect it would be over by now ? We have to make the best of a bad job and behave sensibly and protect each other ,sadly humans are set to be selfish

Look at your busnesses, can you diversify , claim every financial help going, do what you can

I am still on the side of the economy will recover, it always does

Life is not supposed to be easy or fair, you just have to ride it out

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

A pussy run shit hole,where lefty types offer excuses for every cvnt,and why such cvnts think they can behave as they want,without repercussion.

Sounds like the current government.

 

[NeilYoungIsBack]

The average life expectancy in the uk is about 80 years old.

Does that mean these people should already be dead?

Do this mean their life is not as important as a 25 year old driven to suicide as a side effect of this pandemic?

I have a feeling you were intending to respond to someone else's post?

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

I'm not offering an opinion on Covid specifically. I'm merely stating that your appeal to authority argument is a fallacy. I think it's far more dangerous if something is not allowed to be challenged or scrutinised because the "experts" say so. How do you know that the so called "experts" are not lying to you if they are not open to scrutiny?

Of course but its not that here. Many of the posters saying they know better than the experts are the same ones who said
"it was no worse than flu.
Who said "it had weakened",
They were all here saying no restrictions were needed 6 weeks ago, That 1 month ago that this was not a 2nd wave.
Posting fringe/none qualified links

They have been proved wrong time after time.

People can of course debate things but that is not what my problem is though, its the deliberate spread of lies, misinformation and anti-science by people not remotely qualified to say so. This is a pandemic. These mistruths cost lives. They should have their own thread for their "alternate facts"

 

[inchy14]

They are equally as bad, imo

Absolutely no way are they comparable

 

[FantasyIreland]

Sounds like the current government.

They don't exactly inspire....do they.Then again,i see nothing in the world of politics that does.

 

[oman0115]

Sounds like the current government.

They don't exactly inspire....do they.Then again,i see nothing in the world of politics that does.

well they don’t really know what they’re doing, and weak leadership creates instability. Anyway, have you seen what’s going on across Europe with the protests? On the whole most of the uk has done what it’s told to do in comparison. It gets interesting if this crap goes on into next year and the year after I guess

 

[roubaixtuesday]

1 suicide of say a 25 year old due to this is worse than a 90 odd year old due to COVID imo.

It's irrelevant. Both are more likely unless we control the virus.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Might be worth keeping an eye on what occurs in the US over the next few weeks. The country is seeing a similar trajectory in cases yet is caught in the middle of an election and has its biggest holiday coming up in the next few weeks (Thanksgiving). Not to mention this is a country that is hostile to any form of restrictions on its freedoms.

 

[grunge]

I am 57, a little overweight and have worked in the NHS for over 30 years and I’m seeing, every single day, the consequences of lockdown. They don’t work (if they did we’d not being doing it again) and they’re advocated by people whose pensions are not at risk, who are at no risk of furlough and then redundancy. We were told there would be no national lockdown last week that the tier system was enough. The the science presented a series of graphs that would have failed o level anything and everyone’s in thrall to it. Look at this graph here.
View attachment 4721The red line appears to be tracking reality whilst the Imperial one doesn’t even start in the right place. Which one did they choose for a ‘reasonable worst case scenario’? I’m sure you know...

Then there’s this one. View attachment 4722

This was Whitty’s original terror graph of exponential case rises to the end of October. The yellow line is the reality

Listen, I know this is a terrible virus and I know we are in unprecedented times but they keep making decisions based on the above, with no evidence published and they’re making decisions about basic freedoms with nothing to back it up. I swore off this thread a couple of weeks ago and I will leave it again now but I just can’t see what we are about to do, being the best scenario. For all you who think it is, fair enough, but don’t make assumptions about posters and don’t assume that there is only one science.
Finally, although people might disagree with each other, there’s really no need to be rude or insulting to each other and, if I’ve been guilty of it in this thread, I apologise.

1 point here. Lockdowns do work, they do exactly what they are supposed to do which is suppress the virus.

Our gov ( and most of Europe it seems ) didn’t put enough into mitigation after the suppression phase.

A lock down was never supposed to stop the virus for ever.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Given the average age of a Covid death is 84, he obviously can’t because he’s made it up. He’s probably on SAGE....

If you scroll upthread, you'll see I provided a link to the source.

Please don't judge others by your own standards.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

You quoted it as a way to reinforce the consideration of suicides as a factor that should play some part in lock down decisions. For clarity average suicide rates in the UK are barely into 2 digits per 100k of population per annum. Covid deaths are currently at 2.3 per 100k of population per week. Whilst suicides are tragic they shouldn't have an influence on fighting Covid.

i think they and other illnesses should be considered thats all. im not sure they are.

 

[Healdplace]

Good day for Greater Manchester today. Cases down 269 to 2205 and easily lowest of the past week. Indeed that is the lowest since the day after Tier 3 came in a week ago.

Although given the fall in the NW cases this was actually a still high % of the NW at 55%.

The GM falls were mostly modest. A couple even went up. Though by tiny numbers. Wigan though had a much better day.

Most of the big falls in the NW region were in other parts such as Merseyside which has fallen a lot in the past 2 weeks since they went into tier 3.

So relatively Greater Manchester is still higher than it should be.

But if you look at the raw numbers early signs of going in the right direction.

 

[Blue Llama]

i think they and other illnesses should be considered thats all. im not sure they are.

How do you know they weren't?

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

If you scroll upthread, you'll see I provided a link to the source.

Please don't judge others by your own standards.

My own standards? I just put up data from the government which suggests they’re being a tad duplicitous.
And if you think that link, from May, says what you suggested it says, might as well just leave it there.
And no need for the constant sniping either, I get that you disagree with me.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Might be worth keeping an eye on what occurs in the US over the next few weeks. The country is seeing a similar trajectory in cases yet is caught in the middle of an election and has its biggest holiday coming up in the next few weeks (Thanksgiving). Not to mention this is a country that is hostile to any form of restrictions on its freedoms.

If Biden gets in, they will more than likely be much better at being able to get it under control. He will at least attempt to work with the states and governers. At this point, it's clear Trump could not give a shit.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

And no need for the constant sniping either.

Priceless