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That is the lowest cases number in 2 weeks btw.

Possible reason looks like rather low pillar 1 & 2 test numbers.

Just 243,022 versus 276, 154 day before. And 277, 034 day before. And 317, 027 day before that.

This is the lowest number today since 26 October when there were 221, 599 tests and 22. 885 cases reported that day,

I think. As they rather confusingly report the test numbers as the day before the cases reported from those test numbers. I assume anyhow as the tests are always a day behind the cases.
 
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kaz7 said:
My brother was a teacher for 40 years , he teaches parents how to home school now , parents are scared they cant do it but for a limited time, along with home tution from schools online, they are perfectly capable
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I call you, I’ve run schools since 1999 and been responsible for supporting headteachers since 2014.
But you know better, you always do.
 
Blue Smarties said:
Six days a week I go to the gym. Everyone wipes down their equipment, distances themselves from each other, wears a mask when entering and in the changing room, etc. To close them with the data around them is ridiculous.

The real issue is the schools. I occasionally see the school bus when walking back from the gym - the fucker’s full to the brim with school kids who definitely aren’t distancing, and most not wearing masks.
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I agree with schools , and uni's , mad to leave those petri dishes open
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
I'm coming round to thinking that we won't have any other option than to extend this lockdown. If the lockdown works then Christmas will pump the numbers up anyway and if it doesn't work, is that showing that lockdowns won't work again?

When you look at the daily figures now, it's going to take a Herculean effort to get the case numbers down.

We're averaging 22,000 or so cases every day and it will probably take a couple of weeks for that number to start to drop substantially. It would feel like a waste of time if we lockdown for a month (especially just before Christmas) and end up with "only" 8,000 cases a day as we know they'll be up to 16,000 within a few weeks. Christmas is going to see students going home, everyone mixing and travelling and is likely to give the numbers a real boost.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not sure this is going to work. In truth, other than the local closed, working at home and wearing a mask in the shops it just doesn't feel too difficult. The first lockdown felt much harder, unless I'm just used to it all now.

It feels like it's too little too late.
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Interestingly, now we are going into lockdown based on cases, at the start of this it was the death figures we were looking at, why the change? Every single news channel was broadcasting hourly updates on deaths now it is cases, more people are being tested so of course that will be on the up, but it is showing that it is not as contagious to the vast majority of the public as we first thought. So.... do we do this continually until there is a vaccine? Will there be a mass roll out of vaccination for a virus that will affect 1% of people, most of whom are elderly and have existing issues?

I am not in favour of countries going into lockdown, it is creating other issues, poverty and social unrest for one. If we are going back into lock-down, then the first one didn't work did it? It this going to be on going indefinitely? Is it not feasible for vulnerable, eldery and anyone at risk to isolate along with anyone who feels worried by covid who wishes to work at home and socially distance? I am playing devils advocate a bit, I see a lot of people on here who are almost calling a full lockdown on, but there is also a rising % of the population who question its'' validity.
 
mosssideblue said:
Go running, do push/ sit ups in your home. But it doesn't matter what I say, you will find some way of not liking it. How do you think sailors keep fit whilst at sea?

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I go running and cycling, can’t swim now though so that’s part of my training out of the window. Plus I’ve got weights at home, this doesn’t massively affect me, As for push ups and sit ups.... that’s not enough for everyone, how about the yoga or Pilates classes? How about heavy weights?
 
Len Rum said:
Not heard that from any source anywhere but hope it's true.
So far most experts have forecast December as the earliest date for a very limited roll out to the most vulnerable.
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You’ve bookmarked it for future discussion? That is implying I’m posting in bad faith and I resent that implication.
 
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inchy14 said:
No, what I’m saying is the gym is a safe environment for many people who won’t want to exercise outdoors. Yoga, Pilates other classes have been done in safe clean environments, these can’t be done outside. Plus if you’re used to lifting heavy weights for example how can you do that outside? How do you swim outside at this time of year?
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Be a hard bastard and go up to Windermere and Coniston. ;)
 
Healdplace said:
Conservative MP Peter Bone has spoken out about the graphs 'flashed up' and 'unreadable' in the presentation by Boris and co on Saturday and seems to think this was old data being used. It was, as noted in here at the time the numbers arguing about NW hospitals were at their worst point a week ago if you looked VERY closely at the date by freezing the picture. As I did but most would not and were not told in the briefing, of course.

Things had improved over the next few days and that data was available (I had posted it in here every night) but was not mentioned.

Peter Bone says he just wants clearer use of data so MPs can make properly informed decisions.

I agree. It is why I started doing these things myself as I saw this problem months ago and decided the best thing was to collate all the data myself from source so any spin was missing. Other than any I accidentally introduced myself.
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Everyone on here mentioned how out of date that data was. How has someone like Whitty not got a rolling 24hr updated set of data? I’d forgive him if he had Thursday’s data on Saturday with the announcement happening so quickly, but a week out of date? How has he got 7 days out of date data when briefing the entire country?
 
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