2020 US Elections

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domalino said:
Seems to be some talk that the Alaska Senate race might actually be very tight.

Same story as elsewhere, the Republican has a big lead of 30points but it's only 50,000 votes and has one of the biggest splits between Republican candidate telling everyone they have to vote in person, and the Democrat encouraging everyone to vote by mail.

There's about 110,000 absentee votes uncounted, so Democrat Dan Gross would need to win those by about 4:1 which is in line with what we've seen in places like Philly and Detroit.

There's also some in person early votes which are expected to favour him.

They won't start counting until a week after the election. Christ knows why.
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Two words: republican government.
 
kaz7 said:
I really fear for joe and kamala , i think there will be an attempt to get to them by some nutters
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I remember Trump did make a "Joke" about Biden not making it to the end of the election.
 
ell said:
Lock him up
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This might well happen - but I can't endorse the viewpoint.

Instead - let's let the justice system pursue whatever cases they may have against Trump in a fair and non-partisan manner - should evidence rise to the point that criminal conviction is warranted - so be it - let a jury of Trump's peers decide the outcome in this event.
 
Fox refusing to acknowledge Biden as the winner when he wins. Fucking nut jobs everywhere.
 
Posted last night but for those that didn’t see it.

Just watch how brilliant this speech is from the losing Republican (McCain) in 2008. It really highlights just how far politics has fallen over the last decade. It actually feels weird to listen to just because of how far away it is from the current climate - both in the US and here in the U.K.

 
Bluemoon dan said:
Genuine question for the Americans on here. How are Fox News reporting on this right now? Are they amplifying and supporting his conspiracy theories or are even they wavering now?
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Well I'm guessing that as Fox are apparently going to refuse to acknowledge Biden as President when he does officially reach the 270 mark my question has been answered....
 
Anything think he's going to take his ball and go home in a week or so? Let Pence finish out his term because no wanted to play "fair"? Is that even possible?
 
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minnesota blue said:
Anything think he's going to take his ball and go home in a week or so? Let Pence finish out his term because no wanted to play "fair"? Is that even possible?
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It is possible, he could resign and leave Pence to manage the lame duck admin and the fallout from the loss.

But I personally think that is extremely unlikely, as it more quickly opens him up to all the myriad dangers he desperately wanted to stay in office to be shielded from.
 
squirtyflower said:
It’s not particularly new phenomenon. I’ve read the same sentiments following parliamentary elections in the UK.
I also recall the Guardian running several articles about the Brexit vote being anti-democratic as the ‘wrong’ side won.
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You’re suggesting a popular vote for President undemocratic?
 
Are Fox saying they aren't going to acknowledge Biden now, or ever?
On the subject of Fox, you've got to be a pretty shit human being to watch it in the first place haven't you. Kind of sums up where we are in the world right now that they still get pretty good ratings.
 
BlueMoonFromAcrossThePond said:
I agree with kaz7 - his (or her) point is that current times are unique in recent memory - a standing president is openly encouraging rebellion and is furthermore spreading unsubstantiated claims that the vote is not trustworthy and that the presidency has been stolen by Democrats via corruption and voter fraud.

It's not at all unlikely that some far-right actors may view current events as a call to arms - a "patriotic" mandate to put matters right by whatever means.
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The point might be that with the prospect of someone else in charge, it'll be much less attractive to these people.

Up to this point, the biggest man on the planet was hinting that if you went nuts, he would forgive you, personally. You would be at the centre of one of the biggest stories ever. And all the Reds would pretty much have your back one way or another.

Now, he's about to become yesterday's man. And we as a species are really very subtly attuned to the dynamics of people rising and falling in power and prestige. So you'd likely on some level be aware of the possibility that you wouldn't get his personal declaration of support, and all that attention - because no-one really cares what the lame duck thinks. He likely can't safeguard you. Or if he can, he is less likely to think it worthwhile. And this is true of the rest of his 'army'. It is dissipaiting as people look to position themselves for the future. R Senators and Representatives are not backing him like they used to, and presumably that'd be true in the case of the general ranks of Republicans, you'd be bloody embarrassed if loads of them disowned you.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
No network has called it. Only DecisionDeskHQ, a small data science firm who typically works with Republicans.
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Yes - if you go by the logic that it is still mathematical possible for Trump to win then you shouldn't call it.

But we have all seen the slow trickle of mail in votes pushing Biden ahead and nothing to suggest that is going to stop. It would need to get reversed in at least 2 states. So its like a team being 2 nil up, in extra time, but the other team can't get the ball so they are not going to win.
 
minnesota blue said:
Anything think he's going to take his ball and go home in a week or so? Let Pence finish out his term because no wanted to play "fair"? Is that even possible?
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No, he'll sue (unclear who/what entities -- probably Secretaries of State, specific election commissioners -- whomever he can find to sue personally -- folks without resources to fight back -- except they'll be plenty of attorneys willing to fight for them pro bono -- plus whatever state entities they can), there will be plenty of coverage, all his suits will be thrown out/dismissed, and then he'll go on to the "corrupt Dem judges" and turn on his own internal staff and other Republicans, bitching and sniping and accusing all the way until he's shipped out of office. Like Nixon, at some point he's going to have to start thinking about his defense because as soon as he's out of office, he'll have no protection from state adjudication. I can absolutely see him pardoning himself and his family for any crimes potentially committed on a Federal level -- that will be the biggest story.
 
SebastianBlue said:
It is possible, he could resign and leave Pence to manage the lame duck admin and the fallout from the loss.

But I personally think that is extremely unlikely, as it more quickly opens him up to all the myriad dangers he desperately wanted to stay in office to be shielded from.
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I guess my thinking is that it'd be a way for him to change the narrative of the election loss, ie I'm not going to be a sucker. Then he pledges to run again in 2024...
 
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