2020 US Elections

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BlueMoonFromAcrossThePond said:
The forceful pushback coming as late as it has is unfortunate.

On the other hand - I fear it makes very little difference.

Rupert Murdoch's news outlets amplify Trump's position - and lend legitimacy to any number of his false claims.
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I've tried to reason with staunch Republicans - it's absolutely impossible. Fox news and Trump et. all are the gospel truth - claims to the contrary are fake.
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Rupert is backing away slowly from the animal hes created. Murdochs influence has destroyed his own country and possibly the UK next. But thats another thread.
 
mat said:
Rupert is backing away slowly from the animal hes created. Murdochs influence has destroyed his own country and possibly the UK next. But thats another thread.
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I've read about this in the news.

My initial reaction, Thank Goodness!

And then I go to www.foxnews.com - and for the life of me - I can't see any truth whatsoever behind the story that Murdoch is backing away from Trump's claims - whatsoever.
 
SWP's back said:
Australia?
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I'll see if I can find the articles.

Murdoch being blamed for their political fuckwittery.


www.independent.co.uk

Record-breaking Australian petition calls for inquiry to Rupert Murdoch’s media monopolies

Government unlikely to launch commission into media diversity despite 500,000 signatories to online petition
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk


www.smh.com.au

Murdoch's sway on politics warrants royal commission

Rupert Murdoch is not just interested in money – and the habits of a lifetime lead him to destroy anyone who gets in his way.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
 
mat said:
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Fake news! The radical left continues promulgating disinformation.

If legal votes were counted, I would be your next President by a landslide.

And blah, blah, blah...
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It's a very sad world where truth matters not at all.
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Anecdote...

I remember watching on television the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 - nearing the end of hostilities a US reporter was seen interviewing a top Iraqi official - perhaps the Minister of Defense or somesuch.

The reporter asked, something along the lines of, "How long before you surrender?"

The reply was - paraphrasing - "Surrender? Don't be ridiculous! We're routing the vile American infidels - victory is at hand."

The interview was interrupted by a violent explosion... an American bomb visibly destroying Iraqi fortifications shown in the background.
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And as before, so too is it is now... as the "bombs" of reality demolish Trump's outlandish positions, he nonetheless persists in claims of victory.
 
BlueMoonFromAcrossThePond said:
Fake news! The radical left continues promulgating disinformation.

If legal votes were counted, I would be your next President by a landslide.

And blah, blah, blah...
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It's a very sad world where truth matters not at all.
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Anecdote...

I remember watching on television the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 - nearing the end of hostilities a US reporter was seen interviewing a top Iraqi official - perhaps the Minister of Defense or somesuch.

The reporter asked, something along the lines of, "How long before you surrender?"

The reply was - paraphrasing - "Surrender? Don't be ridiculous! We're routing the vile American infidels - victory is at hand."

The interview was interrupted by a violent explosion... an American bomb visibly destroying Iraqi fortifications shown in the background.
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And as before, so too is it is now... as the "bombs" of reality demolish Trump's outlandish positions, he nonetheless persists in claims of victory.
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The game is to keep the story going for as long as possible. Keep 'Trump Defiant' at the top of the news bullitins, front pages of newspapers and forums. It's PR, it's always been his thing, people who want to hurt him now are best off establishing the truth in tiny, devestatingly unarguable packages, and otherwise ignoring him, not mentioning or quoting him, or Pompeo or whoever. Like every world-class narcissist, attention is the lifeblood of the operation, most of the time this means causing havoc and upset. Want it to stop? Stop reacting, stop retweeting, pretend he doesn't exist, because any other approach works for him.
 
BlueMoonFromAcrossThePond said:
I've tried to reason with staunch Republicans - it's absolutely impossible. Fox news and Trump et. all are the gospel truth - claims to the contrary are fake.
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Glad to see you’ve come around to the point I (and others) made in our discussion in the Trump thread, mate.

No apologies necessary to me, of course — just happy to see you free yourself of the chains of authoritarian tactics.
 
bobmcfc said:
Why haven’t those states finished counting yet. ?
Until they finish and declare this bollocks will keep rolling
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If it's within a few % it'll probably go to a recount. It was a month after election night in 2000 when Bush Jr got confirmation he'd won, and he was less of a **** than trump (mostly). I'd imagine the Donald would be fucking delighted if he can keep this tied up in recounts and litigation until the 21 Jan, so even with the removal truck on the whitehouse lawn and all his shit packed in boxes he can avoid admitting he's lost.
 
SWP's back said:
Too fucking right. Any **** that wants to say Trump is no worse than any previous president is either thick or purposely lying at this stage.
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there’s only one person on here who was regularly stating voting for Biden is the same as voting for Trump, endless posts day after day. What a plank.
 
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