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Like other articles it suggests that secondary school pupils are bringing the virus into the home. But where from?
Am I surprised? No.
Far too many teenage kids couldn't give a schidt.
They were told to wear masks from Monday 2nd November. Hopefully they are doing it better in other schools to those that friends of mine work at, but frankly that's wishful thinking.

Where from? Have you seen how kids are mixing outside school? Teen catches it. Takes it into school, spreads it. Kid takes it home. Spreads it to those living at his home. Worker in home take it to work. Spreads it etc.
50% don't get symptoms. That is why this virus is so incideous.
 
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At my school we've had Nursery and Reception isolating twice, Year 1 isolating once and Year 3 isolating once. 4 staff positives, 3 children, couple of siblings, and 5 parent positives - these are the ones we have been informed about. I know for an absolute fact that some parents have told us their child has been tested and it was negative but that the child was never tested. Kids have an uncanny way of letting you know the truth eventually. These were children who were symptomatic, who we placed in isolation and were told not to return until negative or after full isolation period.
I heard some tremendously sad news at the weekend from a colleague who teaches in Wythenshawe. One of their teachers tested positive and seems to have passed it to her 77yr old mother who died last weekend from Covid.
At the same school in April, two parents who were nursing staff died.
I myself was symptomatic last Thursday, isolated Friday and was tested, came back negative thankfully but I now have chest infection and am struggling to get up the stairs. Normally I'd battle through and be back in school but I'm extremely worried what would happen if I get Covid on top of this infection.
It would have a devastating effect on pupils if we shut the schools again, online learning is shite - there's no substitute for being in class with your peers being taught by your teacher.
But schools may be driving the numbers and subsequent deaths up. The infection rate amongst primary children appears to have plateaued at 1% but secondary pupils look particularly infectious.
As an aside, it would appear Manchester LA have been briefed that schools will close December 1st.
On verra...
No way would I go near elders if I worked in a teaching environment, I go in enough of them to know there not safe at all
 
Am I surprised? No.
Far too many teenage kids couldn't give a schidt.
They were told to wear masks from Monday 2nd November. Hopefully they are doing it better in other schools to those that friends of mine work at, but frankly that's wishful thinking.
Not at the schools I goto , boils my piss , I refuse to go inside them now while kids there lucky boiler rooms tend to be outside
 
Such a difficult position to be in, everything tells me that closing schools would have a huge positive impact is stopping the spread of this virus, on the other hand i look at my 14 year old gran daughter and feel for her after seeing the impact of going through the first lock down. School really is a golden time in the majority of children's lives and they won't get this time back. You then factor in childcare and parents having to stay at home and it becomes a huge mess.

I am glad i am not the one having to make these decisions.
 
The news today is equally good for the NW and GM from the regional scoreboard. Supporting the hospital data I posted above.

London 2643 - up from 2588. London has really started to tick up. Though as yet deaths there still low. May sadly come though as hospital patient rises are starting to do.

Midlands 3125 - up from 2990 . Again matching the Midlands hospital data.

North East 1483 - down from 1619. Seems to be settling back to its scores from some weeks back.

Yorkshire 3306 - down from 3332 but it has settled up at a higher level than it was.

And North West 3105 - down from 3699 - third straight fall from 5122 when we had that weird 33K cases number earlier in the week.

It also means that NW was NOT the highest region today. Not even the second highest region - as both Yorkshire and Midlands had more - and the NW was also only 462 ahead of London when just 6 weeks ago London was 3525 behind.
Showing the respective paths of the two regions recently.
 
Such a difficult position to be in, everything tells me that closing schools would have a huge positive impact is stopping the spread of this virus, on the other hand i look at my 14 year old gran daughter and feel for her after seeing the impact of going through the first lock down. School really is a golden time in the majority of children's lives and they won't get this time back. You then factor in childcare and parents having to stay at home and it becomes a huge mess.

I am glad i am not the one having to make these decisions.
Think it plays On adults mental health , my partner is off so we 20% down on her wages lucky we can afford it and I’m super busy so can do overtime

but seeing these schools just makes me fuming people losing everything, getting into debt etc then see laughing teenagers no care in the world
 
How are hard working families (the back-bone of this country) meant to get by with the kids off for an extended period of time? Unless we furlough parents so they can look after their children
It seems to be the older children, secondary school age, who have a higher transmission rate. So maybe parents could still go to work if secondary schools shut. But easy for me to say, as mine are all over 18. My son, now 20 and in the 4th year of an engineering apprenticeship, excelled at school in engineering, woodwork and PE. Not sure how he would have done those online.
 
As for Greater Manchester the news is even better.

Some of the lowest numbers in many weeks and an amazing 1087 lower than the day that 33 K cases appeared out of nowhere.

Score today was 1499 - and at 48% of NW total again shows the whole region is down. Not just GM.

Amazingly today we had only one score over 200. And two below 100 for the first time in weeks. Three boroughs also had Pop score rises in the 30s too when we have been struggling to get anyone below double that and many over 100. Nobody got near that today. Even Rochdale - odds on certainty to be joining Oldham in the 5000 club but avoided it.

Yes, its Sunday (Saturday testing data). Yes it could change. But the signs are all aligned and for now this is looking promising.
 
Think it plays On adults mental health , my partner is off so we 20% down on her wages lucky we can afford it and I’m super busy so can do overtime

but seeing these schools just makes me fuming people losing everything, getting into debt etc then see laughing teenagers no care in the world

I agree, and what gets me is just how split these kids can be in regard to their attitudes, I look at some teenagers and honestly wonder how the hell they have managed to abide by the rules and have marvelled at how seriously they have taken them. Then on the other hand you see the ones who appear to have absolutley no respect for the rules and seem activley go out of their way to be wankers.

I guess the obvious answer is down to parenting, as some one said if this virus resulted in kids being the most at risk the parents and grandparents would be doing everything in the power to protect them.
 
No way would I go near elders if I worked in a teaching environment, I go in enough of them to know there not safe at all
Same here, haven't stepped foot in mum and dad's since March and won't be until they're vaccinated.
Just to add a (fairly crucial) bit of information - the teacher's dad had passed away in August so was supporting her widowed mum through a very traumatic time. She took all the precautionary steps, or thought she had, but, as we know, this thing knows no boundaries.
 
It’s common sense to close them ffs.

No it's not. Do you think 13-16 year olds will stay in their houses whilst schools are shut? They will be mixing as much as in school and it won't be policed at all. The youngest aren't spreading it at all so why would we even consider them not being in school.
 
Just in case anyone missed out the first, second or third time. All the talk of young, old, schools etc. spreading virus would be irrelevant if so many of our country weren't fat as barely anyone would be dying. Hopefully this will encourage some to take some responsibility, sort their diet out and get up and move about more.

But let's shut off all sport and keep fat food joints open.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...esity-crisis-led-50-000-Covid-death-toll.html
 
No it's not. Do you think 13-16 year olds will stay in their houses whilst schools are shut? They will be mixing as much as in school and it won't be policed at all. The youngest aren't spreading it at all so why would we even consider them not being in school.
Not true. Approximately 48 thousand primary aged children have tested positive. Incredibly unlikely that not one of them has infected someone else. I advocate keeping primary schools open, but let's not pretend there isn't any transmission in that demographic.
 
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