COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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True_Blue69 said:
Just in case anyone missed out the first, second or third time. All the talk of young, old, schools etc. spreading virus would be irrelevant if so many of our country weren't fat as barely anyone would be dying. Hopefully this will encourage some to take some responsibility, sort their diet out and get up and move about more.

But let's shut off all sport and keep fat food joints open.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...esity-crisis-led-50-000-Covid-death-toll.html
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I doubt very much everyone who died were fat ,the ventilator diet is pretty harsh on the fat ones, you dont half talk bollocks
 
johnnytapia said:
At my school we've had Nursery and Reception isolating twice, Year 1 isolating once and Year 3 isolating once. 4 staff positives, 3 children, couple of siblings, and 5 parent positives - these are the ones we have been informed about. I know for an absolute fact that some parents have told us their child has been tested and it was negative but that the child was never tested. Kids have an uncanny way of letting you know the truth eventually. These were children who were symptomatic, who we placed in isolation and were told not to return until negative or after full isolation period.
I heard some tremendously sad news at the weekend from a colleague who teaches in Wythenshawe. One of their teachers tested positive and seems to have passed it to her 77yr old mother who died last weekend from Covid.
At the same school in April, two parents who were nursing staff died.
I myself was symptomatic last Thursday, isolated Friday and was tested, came back negative thankfully but I now have chest infection and am struggling to get up the stairs. Normally I'd battle through and be back in school but I'm extremely worried what would happen if I get Covid on top of this infection.
It would have a devastating effect on pupils if we shut the schools again, online learning is shite - there's no substitute for being in class with your peers being taught by your teacher.
But schools may be driving the numbers and subsequent deaths up. The infection rate amongst primary children appears to have plateaued at 1% but secondary pupils look particularly infectious.
As an aside, it would appear Manchester LA have been briefed that schools will close December 1st.
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Your health is more important than your job mate..
 
johnnytapia said:
Same here, haven't stepped foot in mum and dad's since March and won't be until they're vaccinated.
Just to add a (fairly crucial) bit of information - the teacher's dad had passed away in August so was supporting her widowed mum through a very traumatic time. She took all the precautionary steps, or thought she had, but, as we know, this thing knows no boundaries.
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So she could have caught it else where?
I goto my parents and take my little 1 there said there not sure how long there got left and not a chance missing her grow up

there was gonna goto Tenerife for 8 weeks till it got cancelled
 
True_Blue69 said:
Just in case anyone missed out the first, second or third time. All the talk of young, old, schools etc. spreading virus would be irrelevant if so many of our country weren't fat as barely anyone would be dying. Hopefully this will encourage some to take some responsibility, sort their diet out and get up and move about more.

But let's shut off all sport and keep fat food joints open.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...esity-crisis-led-50-000-Covid-death-toll.html
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It’s true since I lost weight feels miles better etc this lock down I gained some then lost some now we back in lockdown I’m bloody struggling and started eating bad again
 
True_Blue69 said:
Just in case anyone missed out the first, second or third time. All the talk of young, old, schools etc. spreading virus would be irrelevant if so many of our country weren't fat as barely anyone would be dying. Hopefully this will encourage some to take some responsibility, sort their diet out and get up and move about more.

But let's shut off all sport and keep fat food joints open.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...esity-crisis-led-50-000-Covid-death-toll.html
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Article in today’s Telegraph, saying the same.
 
kaz7 said:
I doubt very much everyone who died were fat ,the ventilator diet is pretty harsh on the fat ones, you dont half talk bollocks
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Not me saying that Karen, someone with more knowledge than you or I and like you always say, you listen to the experts. The stats are there in black and white.
 
Hutchymcfc said:
It’s true since I lost weight feels miles better etc this lock down I gained some then lost some now we back in lockdown I’m bloody struggling and started eating bad again
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So easy with the crap weather to slip into bad eating habits. Last thing you want when it's dark and wet is chicken and salad. It takes discipline no doubt about that, I'm guilty of putting a bit of weight on around every Xmas just due to eating crap.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Think it's the same woman, just that the Telegraph was behind pay wall so not everyone would have been able to read it so posted to mail's version of it.
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I think it is. I’ve been reading the paper version today. I’ve no idea why this hasn’t been part of the governments message. You can’t do anything about your age, your ethnicity, maybe your job, and many other areas of life that put you at risk. But losing weight is one thing you can do something about.
 
It is a discipline.
Took me years for decent habitual system of healthy eating and exercise.
I was a bit of a podge at school despite being active at sports for years (one of the legacies by Dad left me with).
It is harder in winter but I'm all Zenned up these days...I have to be otherwise my mind will go quickly followed by my body.


artfuldodger said:
I think it is. I’ve been reading the paper version today. I’ve no idea why this hasn’t been part of the governments message. You can’t do anything about your age, your ethnicity, maybe your job, and many other areas of life that put you at risk. But losing weight is one thing you can do something about.
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Greater Manchester scoreboard:

Manchester 256 - down from 359. Total cases 25, 376. Weekly 2230. Pop score up 46 to 4590. Weekly Pop down to 403.

Bolton 181 - up from 173. Total cases 13, 549. Weekly 1350. Pop score up 63 to 4712. Weekly Pop up to 470.

Oldham 173 - down from 186. Total cases 13, 171. Weekly 1466. Pop score up 73 to 5555. Second worst in UK. Gap to worst - Blackburn - reduced today to 190, Blackburn on 5745. Weekly Pop down to 619.

Wigan 171 - down from 204. Rare low number here. Total cases 14, 690. Weekly 1543. Pop score up 52 to 4470, Weekly Pop down to 470.

Rochdale 156 - down from 197. Total cases 11, 111. Weekly 1259. Pop score up 70 to escape being the second GM borough and third in UK into the 5000 club - until tomorrow. At 4996. Weekly pop down big to 516.

Salford 145 - down from 174. Total cases 11, 738. Weekly 1240. Pop score up 56 to 4535. Weekly Pop up to 479.

Stockport 115 - down from 151. Total cases 9524. Weekly 1018. Pop score up 39 to 3246. Weekly Pop up to 347.

Bury 113 - up from 109. Total cases 8733. Weekly 977. Pop score up 60 to 4573. Weekly Pop down to 512.

Trafford 91 - down from 128. First sub 100 score for over 2 weeks. Total cases 8220. Weekly 884. Lowest in GM and pulling clearer by day. Pop score up 38 - best in GM today - to 3463. Closes gap to Stockport by 1 to 217. Weekly Pop down to 372 - closing gap to Stockport on the weekly measure to 25.

Tameside 89 - down from 157. Total cases 9314. Weekly 955. Three sub 1000 weekly again. And a fourth just 18 above. Pop score up 39 to 4117. Weekly Pop stays at 421.
 
True_Blue69 said:
So easy with the crap weather to slip into bad eating habits. Last thing you want when it's dark and wet is chicken and salad. It takes discipline no doubt about that, I'm guilty of putting a bit of weight on around every Xmas just due to eating crap.
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I goto crossfit at 6am but I cant work out at home as my young 1 will be in bed or want to be sat with me by time 7pm comes I'm bloody tired , stopping with the salad at work now

Think I'm gonna have set food on set days now to make shopping cooking easier
 
The Northern Baptist said:
How are hard working families (the back-bone of this country) meant to get by with the kids off for an extended period of time? Unless we furlough parents so they can look after their children
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117 M34 said:
Do you have kids?
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True_Blue69 said:
No it's not. Do you think 13-16 year olds will stay in their houses whilst schools are shut? They will be mixing as much as in school and it won't be policed at all. The youngest aren't spreading it at all so why would we even consider them not being in school.
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The schools are a breeding ground. It is futile to ask the country to go into lockdown whilst they remain open.

I can’t go to my local gym, however little Jimmy and his mates can congregate before and after school in the name of education. They pile onto the school buses without their masks or distancing.

The kids don’t care. Many of them in the school my girlfriend teaches in are using it as an excuse to skip PE because they “don’t feel comfortable changing there with coronavirus”.

Not only that, but the system simply doesn’t work.

Kids are put into their year bubbles so they don’t mix, but they still do so before and after school. If one year group has a case, they can’t come in. But if they have a sibling in another year, that sibling can still come and go. Do they believe the siblings are isolating and staying clear of each other at home?

It’s a hot mess, and quite frankly not closing the schools will do more damage than closing them for a period and moving lessons online.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Just in case anyone missed out the first, second or third time. All the talk of young, old, schools etc. spreading virus would be irrelevant if so many of our country weren't fat as barely anyone would be dying. Hopefully this will encourage some to take some responsibility, sort their diet out and get up and move about more.

But let's shut off all sport and keep fat food joints open.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...esity-crisis-led-50-000-Covid-death-toll.html
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I think people need to be very careful with stats on things like this. All coronavirus deaths are closely correlated with age and not obesity. Obesity may cause complications but only alongside the more severe subset of associated conditions like cardiovascular problems.

The death statistics would be apocalyptic if obesity was a sole predictor behind coronavirus deaths but it isn't, age is. Nearly 30% of the country can be considered obese yet the case-fatality rate is only around 1% and that 1% is dominated by the 80+ age group.

It's always a good thing to look to lose weight but people shouldn't worry themselves about coronavirus if they find themselves in the obesity bracket. Looking to lose weight to prevent something like high blood pressure and its long term complications makes far more sense than losing weight to avoid dying from coronavirus.
 
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The UK's coronavirus death toll has increased by 168 - the highest jump on a Sunday since late May - as almost 25,000 more people tested positive.

There have now been 51,934 deaths in all settings within 28 days of a positive test, the fifth highest toll in the world. However, the number of fatalities mentioning Covid-19 on the death certificate is more than 67,000

www.mirror.co.uk

UK coronavirus death toll up by 168 in biggest Sunday jump since late May

The latest UK Covid-19 death and hospital figures came as one of the scientists behind the Pfizer and BioNTech coronavirus vaccine said the impact of the jab will kick in next summer, and normality should return by next winter
www.mirror.co.uk www.mirror.co.uk
 
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