COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Healdplace]

Fair enough, but my point was we shouldn't play silly games, a lot of students in London live in London and commute daily, so their numbers won't be re-allocated out of London, yet a lot more students from London do move to big uni's out of London.

I'm not disputing that messing with the figures from 2 months ago isn't a mess, but it was mess then (and now), because of how it was allocated. I actually think this is good news in a way because (assuming students are not spreading it widely now) the Manchester cases will show the biggest drop shortly.

I agree.

 

[blueparrot]

Don’t know how their various lockdowns compare, but noticed the last few days, Spain,France, Belgium and Netherlands seem to be seeing a steep drop off in cases. Hopefully it sustains and we follow as we have in previous waves.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

So basically the figures will be back Normal tomorrow or are they staggering them over a number of days.

 

[cleavers]

I agree Spain and Belgium have a higher death rate per 100,00 of the population but we are the worst overall regarding the actual number of deaths

As of 16 November 2020, 267 394 deaths have been reported in the EU/EEA and the UK: United Kingdom (51 934), Italy (45 229), France (44 548), Spain (40 769), Belgium (14 421),

If you multiply countries across the world to be equivalent of our population...

Belgium - over 80k
Spain - nearly 60k
Argentina - nearly 53k
US - 52k
Mexico - 52k
Italy - 51k
France - 47k

We've not done great, but neither have many others.

 

[abu13]

If you multiply countries across the world to be equivalent of our population...

Belgium - over 80k
Spain - nearly 60k
Argentina - nearly 53k
US - 52k
Mexico - 52k
Italy - 51k
France - 47k

We've not done great, but neither have many others.

I agree, Belgium in particular must be asking some serious questions of the Government.

 

[Healdplace]

Finally (long night!) hospital data:

England patients up 12, 592 to 13, 058 (was 10, 954 last Monday). Ventilators up 1162 to 1194 (was 1015 last Monday)

Regionally:

London Patients 1214 to 1270 (was 983 last Monday). Ventilators 202 to 214 (was 165 last Monday)

Midlands Patients 2850 to 2908 (was 2305 last Monday). Ventilators 267 to 272 (was 239 last Monday)

NE/Yorks Patients 3038 to 3260 (was 2527 last Monday). Ventilators 214 - 229 (was 197 last Monday)

As you see NE/Yorks still the most over their limit and rising.

North West today up from 2919 to 2959 (was 2855 last Monday - so only 104 up and Midlands closing the gap so NW might soon be the third biggest numbers after being far ahead of every region for weeks.

And ventilators down 266 to 259 (was 251 last Monday). So MIdlands now well ahead in numbers here and NE/Yorks and London closing the gap as the NW numbers are slowing.

All good signs for the region still. Quite possible that first one into wave number 2 will be first one to come out.

 

[cleavers]

I agree, Belgium in particular must be asking some serious questions of the Government.

Yes their deaths today would be about 700 here, and their cases have taken a fairly sharp downturn since lockdown.

Not great for the country that hosts the EU parliament.

 

[knuckles]

Seems the Germans do have a sense of humour....

Hahaha very funny, who knew the Germans really are quite funny after all !!!
I like the thought of being as lazy as a raccoon

 

[peter101]

Sadly the headline in the telegraph is lockdown looms over christmas. This lockdown will last to April at the earliest

 

[peter101]

In germany Merkel is planning a severe lockdown to april with masks in schools at all times as I predicted

 

[peter101]

Fauci in the usa says masks and social distancing will continue after the vaccine

 

[somapop]

Hope not. What other excuses are we going to use for having a day off.

With all the will in the with they’ll never crack Manflu-19.
Dreadful ailment.

 

[CTID Chris]

I’m sure this has been covered plenty already, but this thread moves so fast and there is so much to read through.

I don’t claim to have a great understanding of vaccines and the testing process. Approx 90 vs 6 symptomatic cases in the placebo/vaccine tests. All participants going about their lives as normal. I’m sure it will just be important details that I’ve missed - how does this take it out of the realms of possibility that those given the vaccine did not just have a little more luck not coming into contact with the virus?

I haven’t got the numbers to hand and may be mixing up studies, but for example with cases at 100 per 100k you would expect an average of 16 or so cases in a 15k test group. I haven’t thought about it all too much - hoping you clever folk can help me understand.

 

[Manc in London]

With all the will in the with they’ll never crack Manflu-19.
Dreadful ailment.

Male privelige.

My missus is an HR Manager where I work. No sickness absence for me. But when I was young and single, those 'Monday colds' were handy.

 

[zerox]

A personal post here.
Always been a pub man, pre corona watch the football then down the pub 3 or 4 pints.
No football on bit earlier maybe 5 pints.
Always, always used to laugh at people who drank in home.

So first lock down grin and bear it, towards the end started with a box of beer in home 1 or 2 bottles a night

Second lockdown, depressed, straight into 8 bottles a night. Every night.
Must be many with similiar stories.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

A personal post here.
Always been a pub man, pre corona watch the football then down the pub 3 or 4 pints.
No football on bit earlier maybe 5 pints.
Always, always used to laugh at people who drank in home.

So first lock down grin and bear it, towards the end started with a box of beer in home 1 or 2 bottles a night

Second lockdown, depressed, straight into 8 bottles a night. Every night.
Must be many with similiar stories.

that's on you, to be fair. You know it's not the right thing to do.

 

[zerox]

that's on you, to be fair. You know it's not the right thing to do.

of course it is n me. wouldn't have it any other way

 

[mosssideblue]

A personal post here.
Always been a pub man, pre corona watch the football then down the pub 3 or 4 pints.
No football on bit earlier maybe 5 pints.
Always, always used to laugh at people who drank in home.

So first lock down grin and bear it, towards the end started with a box of beer in home 1 or 2 bottles a night

Second lockdown, depressed, straight into 8 bottles a night. Every night.
Must be many with similiar stories.

I doubt it. On cost alone, that would be prohibitive, but on health grounds, it is excessive.

 

[zerox]

I doubt it.

what do you doubt?

 

[mosssideblue]

what do you doubt?

That there are many with similar stories for reasons stated