Another new Brexit thread

[mcfc1632]

Aye as well

You do realise we ain’t taking strawberries flowers planes boats and lorries seriously? You have grasped this? The fact you actually look this shit up suggests it’s become a bit of an obsession this brexit lark for you.

I may pop back in a few weeks, prior warning I won’t be taking it very seriously so don’t feel the need to do much research:-)

I think/am finding that treating some of the nonsense posted with humour is much more healthy than wasting time engaging with closed minds

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

I totally agree.

Any deal makes Johnson look weak to his party and supporters.

No deal and blame the EU, that's clearly the way to go !

Hope I'm wrong.

I have been hoping to be wrong all along about Brexit but so far I've seen nothing to encourage that view.

Hide the damage under Brexit... blame the immigrants / remainers...... ten years in power and still blaming everyone else.

Brexit will blow a £50bn hole in the UK’s economic recovery from the pandemic, warns KPMG

‘The impact of Brexit will single the UK out among advanced economies next year,’ says report

www.independent.co.uk

 

[blueinsa]

Everyone has moved on from the flowers, we're on butter now. Obviously point c is moot as you didn't skip it, you got drawn in.

Point of order.

Lurpak isn't fucking butter, it's ridiculously expensive Margarine.

 

[stonerblue]

The nonsense that the pages of posts from Remainers trying to make bad news out of the issue of importing flowers demonstrated:

a) 6th November must have been a really slow day,
b) that some Remainers have such a need to find bad news everywhere (even in articles that they have clearly not read) and
c) There is satisfaction to be found in being able to scroll past so many pages of such 'bad news' because you are catching up

Waiting for some good news if you'd like to impart it?

 

[west didsblue]

Point of order.

Lurpak isn't fucking butter, it's ridiculously expensive Margarine.

I think you’re on about Lurpak spreadable. Nobody else is.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Point of order.

Lurpak isn't fucking butter, it's ridiculously expensive Margarine.

I'm sort of looking forward to the daily doom predictions now. I think now we are down to such vital things as lurpak (got to admire the sudden brand loyalty) and cut flowers the reality may be sinking in.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I'm sort of looking forward to the daily doom predictions now. I think now we are down to such vital things as lurpak (got to admire the sudden brand loyalty) and cut flowers the reality may be sinking in.

I have already got a few extra items in just in case.

 

[Vic]

Point of order.

Lurpak isn't fucking butter, it's ridiculously expensive Margarine.

I'd say you were getting stupid but it's too late for that. Of course it's butter.

 

[Vic]

I think you’re on about Lurpak spreadable. Nobody else is.

Spreadable is still butter.

 

[Vic]

I'm sort of looking forward to the daily doom predictions now. I think now we are down to such vital things as lurpak (got to admire the sudden brand loyalty) and cut flowers the reality may be sinking in.

Talk about the car industry then. But it's in the weekly shop that it will show. Butter, flowers, fish, any imported food - who do you think is going to pay the tariffs?

 

[Vic]

I have already got a few extra items in just in case.
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Actually, there's no warehouse space available as everybody's stockpiled ready for Brexit.

 

[west didsblue]

Spreadable is still butter.

It’s a mixture of butter and oil. Mostly butter though.

 

[BobKowalski]

Talking of butter...from hearings at the Brexit Select Committee. TLDR. It’s a shitshow. We are nowhere near ready. Calling for *cough* implementation period.

Brexit warning in Northern Ireland: Ulster Farmers Union "On January, 1, there won't be infrastructure.. there was to be" "A blueprint assistance scheme. We haven't even seen state of that yet, six weeks to go".

UFU president Victor Chestnutt says they realised only two weeks ago that ALL farmers in NI need an EORI number.

"Government hasn't conveyed that yet to farmers. There is a huge disconnect between government and farmers"

Intertrade Ireland survey shows just 9% of businesses in Northern Ireland are ready for Brexit checks which are mandatory, deal or no deal, on 1 January. Brexit committee hears just 39% making Brexit preps, down from 60% because of Covid, (survey by Manufacturing NI).

Connolly explains the complexity of GB-NI trade

"A cottage pie has 9 border movements...a bottle of Baileys has 5, he says."

"Where there's friction, there's cost. And this just won't impact NI consumers... It'll affect GB households as well"

EU and the UK urged to delay Northern Ireland protocol as business, farmers simply not ready. Had no engagement with JC, no idea what at risk goods are etc.

"We need an implementation period," says Aodhán Connolly, Director, NI Retail Consortium to Brexit comm

 

[yerwot?]

By going all out for a no-deal conclusion, as some sort of a clean break and a chance to implement the far-right dogma into law, is floundering on the rocks of reality. No contingency strategy to deal with the endless rules that need to be established before a single movement of goods and services can happen, and then to inform all involved of what they are. The fall-back excuses of brexit is to dodge, divert and blame business is not working , now the shit is about to hit the fan, with not a single promise of the ref.winning promises (those haven't already been exposed as a blatant LIE ) even on the distant horizon. For a government to waste four years and not even beginning to prepare for such an epic task, will live long in the history of shambolic mis-management, no matter how this is spun, as the legacy will be there for all to see..... as will the part played by the msm.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

There’s a pretty good chance you’re right. A quick glance at the comments section of the Mail and Express shows that that he has plenty of support for No Deal. These idiots will only realise how wrong they have been when they have to live through the consequences, although they’ll no doubt initially blame their diminished circumstances on Remainers and the EU.

These idiots will never realise how wrong they have been because it will only effect those lower down the food chain like us

 

[west didsblue]

These idiots will never realise how wrong they have been because it will only effect those lower down the food chain like us

I think a lot of them will be quite a long way down the food chain, but it'll take huge problems before they will admit that it's Brexit related.

 

[blueish swede]

Do you really think that someone who knew leaving was a bad idea would want a legacy of making the worst of a bad idea?

I think it's the only chance he has of any legacy that isn't "that tosser that came after Theresa May".

I don't think he can understand probabilities and risk. He sees the world in the form of a coin-toss with whatever he wants being ever so slightly more favourable, so I think he'll go no deal.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I think it's the only chance he has of any legacy that isn't "that tosser that came after Theresa May".

I don't think he can understand probabilities and risk. He sees the world in the form of a coin-toss with whatever he wants being ever so slightly more favourable, so I think he'll go no deal.

I'd have thought that unless there is a specific situation that requires either his affable bluster or charming jocular routines he'll keep well out of it and leave it to Frost and the team. Boris is not a fan of detail and detail is where they seem to be at this stage. Whether it's a deal or no Deal he'll frame it as a personal success and people who hate him or hate brexit will be on hand to declare it all a disaster.

 

[Vic]

I'm just signing an open letter to Johnson, reminding him of what's in the political declaration he signed.

Dear Prime Minister,

You have just a narrow window left to secure the "comprehensive" Brexit trade deal you promised and we, the undersigned, want to remind you of just some of the things that you signed up to in the agreed UK-EU Political Declaration, which we expect you to deliver on.

- A deal with "no tariffs, fees, charges or quantitative restrictions across all sectors"
- "A level playing field for open and fair competition" and maintaining “environmental, social and employment standards at the current high levels”
- Aiming to deliver “a level of liberalisation in trade in services well beyond the Parties' World Trade Organization (WTO) commitments" which covers “professional and business services... financial services... and other services of mutual interest”
- A security partnership comprised of “judicial cooperation in criminal matters", UK cooperation in Europol and Eurojust, agreeing extradition arrangements and agreements for exchanges of information on wanted or missing persons and of criminal records
- A "continued commitment to respect the framework of the European Convention on Human Rights"
- Negotiating an intellectual property rights agreement and a public procurement agreement that goes beyond WTO standards
- Protecting the Good Friday Agreement

You said during last year’s general election campaign that the Brexit deal was “oven ready”, more recently that there was “no reason why we shouldn’t get this done in July” and decided not to extend the transition period to allow for more negotiation time.

Therefore, if you fail to secure a Brexit deal, including the above promises, you cannot blame the EU or the pressures of coronavirus. Furthermore, in this situation, you will have failed those who voted to Leave on the promise of a better future for Britain, as well as those who voted to Remain, when you told them you would be a “prime minister for everyone.”

Yours sincerely,

Labour Movement for Europe supporters

 

[bluethrunthru]

Nissan warns on its UK future without a Brexit deal

The carmaker, which runs Britain's biggest car plant, said the factory 'will not be sustainable'.

www.bbc.co.uk