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Sadly England hospital deaths worse than expected today after a hopeful week.

A tragic 326 - up from 246 last Friday.

However, the split of deaths is still good news for the NW with the lowest percentage in this region for weeks.

Just 59 in the NW with 73 in the Midlands and 101 in NE & Yorkshire.

Another indicator to those I noted last night about how we seem to have peaked in the region for now.

Unfortunately the UK will not have peaked fir some time if these numbers escalate as they are too down south. The SE and London closest to the NW in numbers they have been for ages as well,
 
03 March 2002 said:
Great news for people in the US. If you'd like to know more about the progress in the EU see here:

Treatments and vaccines for COVID-19 - European Medicines Agency

Treatments and vaccines for COVID-19
www.ema.europa.eu www.ema.europa.eu

Scroll down to the 'Medicines undergoing evaluation>COVID-19 vaccines' section. The 3 primary candidates are all in rolling review and have been for a while (Moderna's not so much).
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Immediately is unambiguous, i.e. when they apply they've already got a head start on the application.
 
mosssideblue said:
Your view supports your narrative of convincing yourself your doing no wrong at Christmas if the rules meam we shouldn't mingle.

At the moment 500 deaths per day exist, that tells me we are still fighting a pandemic
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I don't need to convince myself. And regarding the 500 deaths, yes it is sad and shocking, but those numbers don't tell you who died with covid, or from covid, what ages they are, health conditions etc. It's all well and good giving a figure without analysis, but the sad reality of life is death and it is winter and respiratory deaths increase during winter. One question for you, as the ONS no longer record flu and pneumonia death as of June, what category do they now fall as?
 
England hospital deaths details:

Age ranges of 326 deaths: 20 - 39 (2), 40 - 59 (19), 60 - 79 (106), 80 + (199)

East Lancashire 11 and Liverpool 8 were the main NW contributers.

36 deaths today were in one hospital in Leeds.
 
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oman0115 said:
Well the first lock down I was happy when it was implemented, as I guess everyone was. The parameter was death and we knew nothing about the virus, now we do. Now the parameter has been moved to test cases, so if people weren't willingly getting tested what figures would they use to implement restrictions? I am not saying I don't think covid exists like some people, but I think this is being massively mismanaged, considering we know who is vulnerable to it.
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Youre for it now , the cartel will be after you
 
oman0115 said:
I don't need to convince myself. And regarding the 500 deaths, yes it is sad and shocking, but those numbers don't tell you who died with covid, or from covid, what ages they are, health conditions etc. It's all well and good giving a figure without analysis, but the sad reality of life is death and it is winter and respiratory deaths increase during winter. One question for you, as the ONS no longer record flu and pneumonia death as of June, what category do they now fall as?
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Be interesting to see what the answer is to that last question.
 
Marvin said:
Immediately is unambiguous, i.e. when they apply they've already got a head start on the application.
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Not sure why you've quoted my post, but you're right yes.

Unless their submission is missing data / has glaring holes in it, they will likely win the American race but that doesn't affect us too much.
 
oman0115 said:
I don't need to convince myself. And regarding the 500 deaths, yes it is sad and shocking, but those numbers don't tell you who died with covid, or from covid, what ages they are, health conditions etc. It's all well and good giving a figure without analysis, but the sad reality of life is death and it is winter and respiratory deaths increase during winter. One question for you, as the ONS no longer record flu and pneumonia death as of June, what category do they now fall as?
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Excess deaths are in line with Covid deaths
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Nicola sturgeon has announced today that 85% of Scottish hospital beds are full. Frontline staff at Hairmyres hospital in South Lanarkshire are particularly under severe strain.
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Can't find Scottish figures but that's lower than the usual occupancy rates in winter in English hospitals https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-...s/bed-occupancy-rates-within-stps-over-winter
I am not one of the crazy Covid deniers but these politicans should stop treating people like idiots by misusing statistics.
 
domalino said:
Remember they've taken everyone they can out of hospital and stopped doing non-emergency surgeries. So it should be miles below normal. And those routine patients are being replaced by much more care intensive Covid patients.
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good point, same applies for England, about steady on the capacity levels but with a shift in the composition.

just one note; i expect some of the reduction in admissions for various respiratory illnesses will be some of the same people being admitted for covid. However the reduction for non-urgent surgery, whatever impact that might have come spring etc, is noted.
 
Along with some help from my sister I look after my 87 year old Dad, he said a few months ago "just don't put me in a home" he has all his faculties but unsteady on his legs and has Glaucoma issues which I'm worried about. However hearing all the stories about Care Homes (and previous horror stories before the pandemic) it would be a last resort, not sure I could cope with him experiencing that kind of loneliness even though he's a cantankerous bugger at times! Heart breaking stories of care residents and their families, hard to match to pure statistics but even my Dad said "we're living too long", natures way or just a brutal culling of the old and infirm, who knows.
 
England hospital deaths in detail:

19 Nov adds 50 = 50 after 1 day (Last wk was 51).

18 Nov adds 168 = 237 after 2 days. (Last wk was 118 = 157 - massive jump here). This is the highest two day total since 30 April and the most worrying figure in 10 days in the England hospital data that the NW falling but elsewhere now rising might = increasing deaths and an escalating second wave. 168 is also the biggest add on to any date since the 26 April - the furthest back yet any of these records have gone towards the peak of wave one around 10 April

17 Nov adds 47 = 251 after 3 days. (Last wk 36 added = 227). This is the highest day 3 total since 9 Nov - the date when we currently have the highest number of England hospital deaths on one day in wave 2 (293).

16 Nov adds 20 = 246 after 4 days (Last wk 13 added = 224).

15 Nov adds 14 - 275 after 5 days (Last wk 9 added = 238). Only 9 Nov - the 293 day - has been higher at 5 days in wave 2. It was at 287 on five days. So hopefully will not surpass it.

14 Nov adds 12 = 252 13 Nov adds 10 = 241 12 Nov adds 2 = 258

Ones were added to the other days back as far as 11 Sep which as a result of that 1 rises to just 7 - which shows how far we have come into this terrible death rate in the past 2 months.
 
so the Australians have blamed a lockdown on someone lying, and are "really angry" with them about it. Neglecting to mention that if they'd done simple background checks they'd have spotted the lie and avoided it anyway. So just trying to bury their rash judgement and over-zealous behaviour.
 
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