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Can't find Scottish figures but that's lower than the usual occupancy rates in winter in English hospitals https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-...s/bed-occupancy-rates-within-stps-over-winter
I am not one of the crazy Covid deniers but these politicans should stop treating people like idiots by misusing statistics.

Bear in mind that the flu season is only just about to take hold (granted - it may be lower than normal), and as Domalino says, other routine treatments have been cancelled and this year's 85% (so far) is with effort to keep as many beds as possible free. I don't think it's misusing statistics at all, it's providing them.
 
So not an area with low numbers. Just wondering, as when we went away for a week, early September, to an area with very few cases, it was a different world to around Manchester. No masks, public toilets open with no maintenance, very relaxed in restaurants. I certainly feel locally, that public/peer pressure has an effect. Not wearing a mask in my local Tesco would be the equivalent of lighting a fag.
 
So not an area with low numbers. Just wondering, as when we went away for a week, early September, to an area with very few cases, it was a different world to around Manchester. No masks, public toilets open with no maintenance, very relaxed in restaurants. I certainly feel locally, that public/peer pressure has an effect. Not wearing a mask in my local Tesco would be the equivalent of lighting a fag.
Cannot get my head round people not wearing a mask. I want to ask them if they are exempt, and follow it up with is that from Covid?
 
must be, I'm giving an honest assessment of shops around me, I'd say comfortably at least 3 of every 10 people aren't wearing masks and it defeats the purpose, and then it's irritating when people say "see, they don't really work" when they clearly aren't being used as they should be, and it only takes a small number of people in one place not doing it properly to set off a spread. In the shop I just popped into, both servers and 3 customers out of about 8 people in the shop weren't wearing masks, as an example (I had to test in a machine whether my debit card is working or not as I've been having issues and the bank asked me to test it).

There's lots of reasons to be optimistic with vaccines, lower death rates, better treatments, starting to see more understanding of some aspects of long covid, but people's net behaviour has declined recently in my perspective and it's a problem. The prospect of people's opportunity to enjoy Christmas a little as a reward for behaving being crushed because we can't get cases down enough now as people aren't behaving is hard to take for people who've behaved the whole way through. We've closed a bunch of places to allow schools to stay open and keep cases at a steady level, now schools will close for christmas and the roles should be reversed within reasonable restrictions the other way to pay people back for their sacrifices this year.

So this whole "doom monger" vs "denier" thing is just silly, most people are hopeful if not optimistic in certain areas but concerned in others, blanketing it as one or the other just turns those concerns to frustration and anger and people boil over as a result.
We all want the same result, im desperate for normality. Its hit me big time the last few weeks.
maybe we ALL need to be a bit more tolerant of each others views but unfortunately there are 4/5 on here that shout loudest and sometimes more aggressively and drown others out. People with a different opinion just give up in the end.

just nipped in a morrisons for kids feiday treats. Maybe 20 people in, ALL wearing a mask, plus all staff. Im amazed you see so many not wearing. Cant get my head round that
 
So not an area with low numbers. Just wondering, as when we went away for a week, early September, to an area with very few cases, it was a different world to around Manchester. No masks, public toilets open with no maintenance, very relaxed in restaurants. I certainly feel locally, that public/peer pressure has an effect. Not wearing a mask in my local Tesco would be the equivalent of lighting a fag.
I’m in North Leeds and I haven’t seen a supermarket shopper failing to wear a math for several months.
 
There was a 'plandemic' in the supermarket earlier mouthing off at anyone and anyone about 'flu is worse...98%...' as he put his shit lager through the self checkouts.
Despite the staff being polite with him, members of the public were clearly getting wound up.
These are rare to be fair, but they share common traits.

Some genuinely believe masks will be compulsory forever...
 
So not an area with low numbers. Just wondering, as when we went away for a week, early September, to an area with very few cases, it was a different world to around Manchester. No masks, public toilets open with no maintenance, very relaxed in restaurants. I certainly feel locally, that public/peer pressure has an effect. Not wearing a mask in my local Tesco would be the equivalent of lighting a fag.

it was pretty good September/October but it's really nose-dived in compliance the past few weeks, no idea why.
 
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