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Just GM highlights at half time.

Yet more big news today. First time in weeks GM has had a three figure number of cases at 994. That is a whopping 1593 cases down in just 8 days ago.

FIVE boroughs under 100. One with lowest total in GM for nearly three months. You won't need 3 guesses as to where that is.

All told numbers that have not been seen since the end of Summer.

Something is working. Hope someone has figured out what it is.
 
M18CTID said:
Mental numbers in Poland again today - nearly 25000 cases and nearly 600 deaths. Aren’t they supposed to be in a stricter lockdown than us as well?
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It started a couple of weeks ago so will start to take effect next week I guess. I'd say there's 99.9% mask usage at all times near mine but that's mainly due to the police actually doing something about it rather than people caring about the rona.
 
Healdplace said:
Just GM highlights at half time.

Yet more big news today. First time in weeks GM has had a three figure number of cases at 994. That is a whopping 1593 cases down in just 8 days ago.

FIVE boroughs under 100. One with lowest total in GM for nearly three months. You won't need 3 guesses as to where that is.

All told numbers that have not been seen since the end of Summer.

Something is working. Hope someone has figured out what it is.
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Has it naturally run it's course in this wave?
 
GM scoreboard to cheer us up a bit tonight:
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Some truly remarkable numbers not seen since September. Will not point them all out. They speak for themselves. But everybody down. Often way down today.

Manchester 181 – down from 268. Total cases 29, 653. Weekly 4533. Pop score up 33 to 5364. Weekly Pop down 32 to 820.

Wigan 132 – down from 179. Total cases 15, 571. Weekly 1052. Pop score up 40 to 4738. Weekly Pop down 2 to 320.

Bolton 124 – down from 136. Total cases 14, 221. Weekly 853. Pop score up 43 to 4946. Weekly Pop down 17 to 297.

Oldham 115 - down from 183. Total cases 14, 025. Weekly 1027, Pop score up 48 to 5915. Weekly Pop down to 433

Rochdale 113 – down from 129. Total cases 11, 851. Weekly 896. Pop score up 50 to 5328 Weekly Pop down 39 to 402.

Tameside 78 – down from 88. Total cases 9964. Weekly 719. Pop score up 34 to 4390. Weekly Pop down 35 to 317.

Stockport 76 – down from 110. Total cases 9950. Weekly 541. Pop score up 26 to 3391. Weekly Pop down 26 to 184.

Salford 74 – down from 108. Total cases 12, 815. Weekly 1222, Pop score up 38 to 4951. Weekly Pop down 38 to 473.

Bury 73 – down from 111, Total cases 9178. Weekly 558. Pop score up 39 to 4806. Weekly Pop down 18 to 293.

Trafford 28 – down from 84. Trafford now been under 100 for a full week. Even so amazing number. What many places were getting in August before this second wave kicked off. Total cases 8335. Weekly 206. This low because of the huge minus number which came from the reallocation but even so still would be easily the lowest. By far the best performer in GM at present. Pop score up 12 – by miles the lowest rise seen in months. To 3512. Now just 121 behind Stockport in race for best over the whole pandemic. Bar disaster they will get there in a week or two. Weekly Pop down 42 to 87. The first GM borough with a weekly Pop below 100 in nearly 3 months.
 
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Healdplace said:
Just GM highlights at half time.

Yet more big news today. First time in weeks GM has had a three figure number of cases at 994. That is a whopping 1593 cases down in just 8 days ago.

FIVE boroughs under 100. One with lowest total in GM for nearly three months. You won't need 3 guesses as to where that is.

All told numbers that have not been seen since the end of Summer.

Something is working. Hope someone has figured out what it is.
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I like your posts. I dont always understand the figures but you sometimes helpfully give a bit of a run down at the end.

you say it how it is, positive or negative, without any agenda.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
The numbers have levelled off Kaz. Just need them to start falling. But cases staying quite high sadly.
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And the actual number today usually cited - as it is often the highest of the two - the all settings deaths - is 341.

It does fall sometimes when cases are outside the time limit. But either way what really matters is that the rise in deaths is slowing . It will go up for a while yet as sadly this is always the last thing to fall as it is the final link in the chain. But there are reasons to be optimistic even here.
 
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BlueAnorak said:
I say again. When did Christmas ever cause a rise in flu cases?
NEVER.
Why will Covid-19 be any different?
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There have been campaigns in the past due to the increased flu cases at Christmas. Similar with meningitis for new university students.

There are weekly figures published every year for flu which back it up.
 
Healdplace said:
GM scoreboard to cheer us up a bit tonight:
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Some truly remarkable numbers not seen since September. Will not point them all out. They speak for themselves. But everybody down. Often way down today.

Manchester 181 – down from 268. Total cases 29, 653. Weekly 4533. Pop score up 33 to 5364. Weekly Pop down 32 to 820.

Wigan 132 – down from 179. Total cases 15, 571. Weekly 1052. Pop score up 40 to 4738. Weekly Pop down 2 to 320.

Bolton 124 – down from 136. Total cases 14, 221. Weekly 853. Pop score up 43 to 4946. Weekly Pop down 17 to 297.

Oldham 115 - down from 183. Total cases 14, 025. Weekly 1027, Pop score up 48 to 5915. Weekly Pop down to 433

Rochdale 113 – down from 129. Total cases 11, 851. Weekly 896. Pop score up 50 to 5328 Weekly Pop down 39 to 402.

Tameside 78 – down from 88. Total cases 9964. Weekly 719. Pop score up 34 to 4390. Weekly Pop down 35 to 317.

Stockport 76 – down from 110. Total cases 9950. Weekly 541. Pop score up 26 to 3391. Weekly Pop down 26 to 184.

Salford 74 – down from 108. Total cases 12, 815. Weekly 1222, Pop score up 38 to 4951. Weekly Pop down 38 to 473.

Bury 73 – down from 111, Total cases 9178. Weekly 558. Pop score up 39 to 4806. Weekly Pop down 18 to 293.

Trafford 28 – down from 84. Trafford now been under 100 for a full week. Even so amazing number. Total cases 8335. Weekly 206. This low because of the huge minus number that will be gone Monday which came from the reallocation but even so still would be easily the lowest. As by far the best performer in GM at present. Pop score up 12 – by miles the lowest rise in months. To 3512. Now 121 behind Stockport in race for best over the whole pandemic. Bar disaster they will get there in a week or two. Weekly Pop down 42 to 87. The first GM borough below 100 in nearly 3 months.
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maintains my opinion that we are in week 6 or 7 of the second wave in Manchester. My honest opinion is that 25 to 40 percent of Mancunians have had it. Those on the front line like in the nhs or using public transport will be higher. My daughter said in her halls in Liverpool about 80 percent have had it and barely anyone now.

in my opinion we are gettting towards the latter stages of this? 3/4 more months?
 
worsleyweb said:
maintains my opinion that we are in week 6 or 7 of the second wave in Manchester. My honest opinion is that 25 to 40 percent of Mancunians have had it. Those on the front line like in the nhs or using public transport will be higher. My daughter said in her halls in Liverpool about 80 percent have had it and barely anyone now.

in my opinion we are gettting towards the latter stages of this? 3/4 more months?
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tend to agree, i think about a third on our road have had it.
 
What’s people’s opinion’s on what tier we will be in GM when we come out of lockdown? Seems we are doing well now and the R value is below 1 so I would hope tier 2 .
 
sky tot said:
What’s people’s opinion’s on what tier we will be in GM when we come out of lockdown? Seems we are doing well now and the R value is below 1 so I would hope tier 2 .
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does that mean pubs can open past ten?
 
Healdplace said:
And the actual number today usually cited - as it is often the highest of the two - the all settings deaths - is 341.

It does fall sometimes when cases are outside the time limit. But either way what really matters is that the rise in deaths is slowing . It will go up for a while yet as sadly this is always the last thing to fall as it is the final link in the chain. But there are reasons to be optimistic even here.
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worsleyweb said:
does that mean pubs can open past ten?
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Pubs couldn’t open past 10 even in Tier 1
 
We are in the NW in I think a similar position to London in May.

They got wave 1 first and came out of it when we were still not yet done as there is a fairly set period of peak and fall. But they ended the restrictions nationally because London was getting better and they needed the economy back.

As a result when wave 2 arrived we were a little ahead of the curve as we started from a less suppressed place than the areas hit hardest in the first wave.

So we started to climb in August and had weeks ahead of the rest (it was going to take longer to peak as we were coming out of Summer and that changes the momentum of a pandemic's ability to spread).

Waves have a natural life and the NW is likely to be ahead of the rest in coming out of this second one because of these factors. But the south has largely been protected by coming out of the first wave at a low enough level to buy extra time as the seasons changed. Probably also starting from a base where many had had it already in wave one maximising the tipping point where cases accelerate and delaying things a bit until now.
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The momentum is clearly shifting with the regions but what happens next is going to depend on what the government do. Will they make regional decisions on easing the lockdown as they said they would come early December.

Or - if by then London and the south is where the NW was in September will they keep lockdown going for all?

Christmas is going to be the big deal as can you see them letting the north have one whilst restricting London more if rates are where the NW was a month or so ago?

Pandemics don't do fairness. They just follow the rules of science. Yet governments can often take decisions that are designed to please the public as opposed to what science strictly requires them to do.

So its anybody's guess where we will be 4 weeks from now.
 
Corky said:
There have been campaigns in the past due to the increased flu cases at Christmas. Similar with meningitis for new university students.

There are weekly figures published every year for flu which back it up.
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Show me a year where week 52 was worse than week 51 or week 1 of the following year. It has never happened in the UK or US - EVER.
Cases start to ramp up in October then hit accelerator in November and December and reach the peak about the 3rd week in January before declining. But every time week 52 is a temporary 10%-20% drop.
Why will Covid-19 be any different?
 
Another set of studies from Dr John that confirms that Zinc reduces levels of Interlukin-6 and reduces the incidence of Cykotine storm.
 
Perhaps I should be on SAGE?
Just Echinacea (with it's antival properties) to go on my list of supplements proved to help protect you against Covid-19 to some degree
 
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