BobKowalski
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Clearly.
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Clearly.
Tutored by Vince Cable too.You would have a great point but for the fact she is shadow chancellor and his own education which you should probably take a look at ;-)
Dodds on the other hand was in education until 35, MEP and MP.
I know who I'd go with.
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Tbh it started out as laughing at politicians on the ropes in general - not particularly labour or tory.Are people having a go at Labour politicians for not doing well in an interview with Andrew Neil? While Liar Johnson hid in a fridge rather than face him?
journolud
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It started out as Emily Thornberry’s evisceration (metaphorically speaking) of Liz Truss over the Japan trade deal but was deflected, by you, to laughing at politicians in general; a diversion gleefully jumped on by brexiteers rather than counter Thornberry’s facts and figuresTbh it started out as laughing at politicians on the ropes in general - not particularly labour or tory.
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You're a bit off-beam I think, Neil did edit the UK edition of The Economist early in his career.Given Andrew Neil is a political journalist and also knows fuck all about the economy or how it works or indeed about trade deals as a whole, that isn’t the take down you imagine...
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Really sorry. I understand now what I did was wrong, and it just goes to show what a serious business the internet is and how easily what may be intended as a harmless joke can get out of hand. Thank you for choosing to deal with this in a low key way on this occasion, but I will consider it a final warning re my conduct on your thread.It started out as Emily Thornberry’s evisceration (metaphorically speaking) of Liz Truss over the Japan trade deal but was deflected, by you, to laughing at politicians in general; a diversion gleefully jumped on by brexiteers rather than counter Thornberry’s facts and figures
Just for the record, Liz Truss had opened the debate but didn't reply to Thornberry. She left her junior, the Minister for Trade Policy, Greg Hands to wind up. Basically, Labour MPs took the piss (an important deal, but hardly "groundbreaking" as it mostly just copied the EU-Japan deal), pulling to shreds all the flowery claims about British exports (especially geographic marks like Stilton).It started out as Emily Thornberry’s evisceration (metaphorically speaking) of Liz Truss over the Japan trade deal but was deflected, by you, to laughing at politicians in general; a diversion gleefully jumped on by brexiteers rather than counter Thornberry’s facts and figures
E.g. "The Secretary of State has also claimed that another 70 of our food and drink products will be recognised by Japan under the geographical indication scheme, increasing their value and protecting their brand. I say this gently, but it does appear that the Secretary of State is exaggerating just a little. There are only seven, not 70, GIs recognised in the UK-Japan deal—exactly the same as in the EU-Japan deal."
"The tariff reductions agreed in the UK-Japan trade deal are almost identical to those set out in the EU-Japan deal. Important analysis by the independent UK Trade Policy Observatory found that there are just 11 out of 9,444 products where the tariffs on UK exports are set to be lower under the UK-Japan deal. As my right hon. Friend the Member for Islington South and Finsbury (Emily Thornberry), the shadow Secretary of State, pointed out, the extra concessions to the UK are striking by the lack of logic behind why Ministers sought them, as, for example, we have had no exports to Japan of any of these products, which include dried eggs and ostrich leather."
Now, unicorn leather, we specialise in that.
(Do we have to pay copyright for the EU texts that we've plagiarised? Well, no, be fair, we did pay contributions to the EU so I guess some of that bus money went to negotiating the trade deals we are now trying to replicate.)
Thornberry did also point out that lots of our current trade deals expire in 5 weeks. She picked out Algeria, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia, trade worth £3.5 billion last year while ("to put that into perspective for those on the Government Back Benches"), the growth in UK exports achieved by the deal with Japan is forecast to be £2.6 billion in 15 years’ time. Altogether it's £55bn of trade that is currently covered by EU deals that will not be covered by any deal on 1st January.
NB to Brexiteers. The only aim of this post is to entertain sensible people who never thought Brexit a good idea, not to persuade anyone else how bad it is.
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TouchyReally sorry. I understand now what I did was wrong, and it just goes to show what a serious business the internet is and how easily what may be intended as a harmless joke can get out of hand. Thank you for choosing to deal with this in a low key way on this occasion, but I will consider it a final warning re my conduct on your thread.
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You're a bit off-beam I think, Neil did edit the UK edition of The Economist early in his career.
I wasn’t questioning his abilities as an editor. Neil is poor on economics. As a political journalist he is also extremely poor on European politics.
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The BBCs top political presenter is extremely poor on European politics.I wasn’t questioning his abilities as an editor. Neil is poor on economics. As a political journalist he is also extremely poor on European politics.
Seems legit.
You think that your lack of any understanding is surprising who - apart from yourself? -;)Fair point, which is why fish should be a good chip to use for leverage for more important concessions from the EU. Not sure what we’ve secured in exchange for the three year transition.
Hey - I was just holding a mirror up to someone who clearly needs seeks to score stupid pedantry points on grammar on a football forumYep. It’s fucking tragic.
“Ooh look how important and connected I am, not forgetting how modest I am”
But - TBF - he does often remind me of Emma - who was the trusted Grade 7
God she did drone on..........
Yep - and I freely except that I was 'protected' by the support groupMaking you look good?
TBF - in those days (only 19 years ago) the world of Whitehall had to be experienced to be understood
Have you worked there?
The Liberal Democrats don't like being left out thoughFucking hell - takes some brass neck to turn up to an Andrew Neil interview as a shadow treasury minister knowing fuck all about the economy.
Fuck - but you are really good;-)Really sorry. I understand now what I did was wrong, and it just goes to show what a serious business the internet is and how easily what may be intended as a harmless joke can get out of hand. Thank you for choosing to deal with this in a low key way on this occasion, but I will consider it a final warning re my conduct on your thread.
Get a room.Fuck - but you are really good;-)
But cleverly done don't you agree?Touchy
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