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England 208 hospital deaths by date:

28 Nov adds 40 = 40 after 1 day (Last wk 20 added - which is a big wk to wk rise today)

27 Nov adds 105 = 163 after 2 days (Last wk 117 added = 169, better news)

26 Nov adds 32 = 236 after 3 days (Last wk 49 added = 242, also down wk to wk)

25 Nov adds 11 = 283 after 4 days (Last wk 15 added = 302, so again down)

24 Nov adds 7 = 286 after 5 days (Last wk 5 added = 274 - so this is up and recent totals are creeping up still to suggest we may yet get more 300 + totals though in general deaths are levelling off I think).

Others 23 Nov adds 4 = 282, 22 Nov adds 3 = 303.

Others 20 Nov now totals 292, 19 Nov 296, and others back into October.

The peak death date for wave 2 in England of 18 Nov stays at 315.
 
So total deaths today from the 4 nations (without England all settings - usually minimal at weekend) is 229

3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v today:- 141 v 157 v 250 v 229 today,

Promising fall.
 
Cases from the 3 nations is 2101

3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v today:- 2279 v 2964 v 1996 v 2101

Sadly another rise and it is being driven by Wales which alone rose by 1070 in the week. When the others all went down. Just take that increase out from Wales let alone a fall and see the difference.

Wales unfortunately do need the new national measures coming in there.
 
Despite the woes of Wales - good news in the UK

Cases 12, 155. 4000 down. And 6507 down in the past 7 days.

All settings deaths 215 - down from 398 last Sunday. Though that included 141 deaths they lost through that 'rare' event in gov.uk - a 'processing error'.

Wonder how the media will spin this good news. Probably with that and miss that it is still down even minus the 141.

Unless the processing error will be every weekend as in staff have all gone away.
 
Healdplace said:
Despite the woes of Wales - good news in the UK

Cases 12, 155. 4000 down. And 6507 down in the past 7 days.

All settings deaths 215 - down from 398 last Sunday.

Wonder how the media will spin this good news.
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They give the numbers without comment, as always

news.sky.com

COVID-19: UK deaths down in last 24 hours with 215 fatalities and 12,155 cases

It brings the total number of cases in the UK to 1,617,327, while fatalities involving COVID-19 now stand at 58,245.
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roubaixtuesday said:
Deaths are reported differently in Sweden (no idea why) - by day of death rather than day reported.

If you look at any of the trackers you'll see deaths in recent days declining. Look again in a few days time and you'll see those numbers up.

The drop off shown for instance here is not real. You can instead expect, sadly, the deaths to rise, as ours did.

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Ah the old Spanish trick.
 
We also do not know test numbers as they never log them over the weekend but it is a fair bet they are down because that is common.
 
kaz7 said:
They give the numbers without comment, as always

news.sky.com

COVID-19: UK deaths down in last 24 hours with 215 fatalities and 12,155 cases

It brings the total number of cases in the UK to 1,617,327, while fatalities involving COVID-19 now stand at 58,245.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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Good to see Sky do but the BBC certainly do not when they go up. It is usually - the highest since....

Which I do not quibble over. I do that in the reports here when necessary. But also flag up the lowest since counterpoint.

My point is only that falls and good news should be flagged up as often as the negative. But often it is not.

In this pandemic people need honesty and truth all the way. But also positive spin when that is valid.

Just in my opinion obviously.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
There’s going to be a mass move from tier 3 to tier 2 on Dec 16th, or whatever date the new tiers will kick in from. Burnham has been given the nod we are going to be included in that move to tier 2.

This is also likely to be the final national lockdown, and we should see some boroughs decoupled from their wider area, example Trafford should hopefully be moved down again when the time is right without having to wait for other Gtr Mcr boroughs such as Rochdale to catch up. Why should a wet led pub in Altrincham have to remain shut because they can’t behave themselves 20 miles away in Rochdale?
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The infection rate in Hale Barnes was the tenth highest in Greater Manchester week ending the 18th November and is still sky high according to the Government website so don’t know how they ban residents from that area from pubs in Altrincham
 
England hospital data again good news.

Yes, it is weekend and they do tend to be lower. And may rise early next week as weekend admissions are often late.

But Scotland has been falling all week.

As has England for a few days now and in past 24 hours numbers down from:- 12. 845 by 554 to 12, 291 It was nearly 1000 more than that last weekend (13. 214).

Ventilators too down from 1242 to 1204 - this was 1248 last weekend so a fall of 44 across the week.

This is the 5th straight daily fall in patient numbers and the 4th in ventilators.

which suggests this is more than just falls because patients are dying. Though that is always a factor in the ups and downs it tends to self correct over a few days.
 
Regional hospital data also very good news and t5he NW yet again is the best in terms of big falls.

It has to be very hard to justify on cases or hospital numbers now singling out the NW. As since they announced the plans both have tumbled.

This is the trouble with announcing plans a week or more before you bring them in. Using week old data partly too.

By the time they are introduced you not only might find this happening to underline your entire strategy as the trend was obvious before they announced so it is not a shock.

But they also miss the political opportunity of using the fall to claim how clever your strategy proved as it happened as soon as you applied the measures.
 
lancs blue said:
That's the problem in a nutshell, if this pandemic is a national emergency then it needed to be tackled with swift decisive action, not pandering to backbench MPs or voters. If Johnson keeps changing his mind we'll be in this mess for all of 2021 as well.
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Sadly the economic shit storm that will follow will be what wins or loses the next election. Tory back benchers are well aware of this. I'm not sure the rest of the country is yet. They will be when there are 3m unemployed, and there will be.
 
Healdplace said:
England hospital data again good news.

Yes, it is weekend and they do tend to be lower. And may rise early next week as weekend admissions are often late.

But Scotland has been falling all week.

As has England for a few days now and in past 24 hours numbers down from:- 12. 845 by 554 to 12, 291 It was nearly 1000 more than that last weekend (13. 214).

Ventilators too down from 1242 to 1204 - this was 1248 last weekend so a fall of 44 across the week.

This is the 5th straight daily fall in patient numbers and the 4th in ventilators.

which suggests this is more than just falls because patients are dying. Though that is always a factor in the ups and downs it tends to self correct over a few days.
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Well, sadly, patients are dying but patients are also recovering and the good news is they are not being replaced in the charnel houses (AKA hospital wards)
 
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Healdplace said:
Good to see Sky do but the BBC certainly do not when they go up. It is usually - the highest since....

Which I do not quibble over. I do that in the reports here when necessary. But also flag up the lowest since counterpoint.

My point is only that falls and good news should be flagged up as often as the negative. But often it is not.

In this pandemic people need honesty and truth all the way. But also positive spin when that is valid.

Just in my opinion obviously.
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The BBC have been very negative since the start. Agree 100%.
 
Healdplace said:
Good to see Sky do but the BBC certainly do not when they go up. It is usually - the highest since....

Which I do not quibble over. I do that in the reports here when necessary. But also flag up the lowest since counterpoint.

My point is only that falls and good news should be flagged up as often as the negative. But often it is not.

In this pandemic people need honesty and truth all the way. But also positive spin when that is valid.

Just in my opinion obviously.
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No - you're spot on. Good news is not reported by the MSM scum. Only bad.
 
Patients /// Ventilators

LONDON 1516 DOWN to 1480 (was 1469 last wk) /// 267 DOWN to 248 (was 251 last wk)

MIDLANDS 2955 DOWN to 2830 (was 3044 last wk) /// 304 DOWN to 291 (was 288 last wk)

NE & YORKS 2831 DOWN to 2757 (was 3072 last wk) /// 207 UP to 211 (was 239 las wk)

And NORTH WEST:-

Patients DOWN 195 in a day - biggest fall in a while from 2485 to 2290 - last wk total was 2694 - so as you see the biggest week to week fall in the UK.

Ventilators DOWN 12 in a day to 191 - last wk it was 228.

So as you see NW is still well below the other 3 regions in both patient numbers and ventilated patients after a month ago being well ahead in both measures.

The last time there were this few patients in NW hospitals with Covid or on ventilators is respectively 23/24 October - over a month ago.

This is a real fall as that date has been retreating daily. In the same way I was reporting it doing versus dates in the first wave when these numbers were heading back into the high levels of early April and the peak of wave 1.

I will soon have to start posting those dates going forwards as they already are starting to do. Late April now as they match the falling of wave 1 numbers.
 
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Regional scoreboard:

NW fares less well comparatively - though still the fourth straight daily fall and below London.

Also the lowest total in the NW for two and a half months.



LONDON 1639 - down from 2260

NORTH EAST 752 - down from 805.

WEST MIDLANDS 1169 - down from 1677.

YORKSHIRE 1181 - down from 1663.


And NORTH WEST

1346 - down from 1669 - biggest day to day drop of the week. But as you see less of a drop than West Midlands and Yorkshire had. Nor London.
 
However, fantastic news from Greater Manchester. This was its best day for pushing three months and GM did the best out of the North West today,

Indeed I had to triple check the numbers they were so low.

GM total was just 600 today.


3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v today:- 1541 v 1499 v 1039 v 600 today.

No way the government can spin that any way but positive.

I went back into mid September and could not find a lower one.


That is just 45% of the NW total today. Lowest ratio in a week or two.
 
GM highlights - NINE boroughs sub 100. And Manchester its lowest score since September.

Rather oddly the only place that went UP today was Trafford (don't panic if you live there - it was by 3!)

And the lowest numbers today (again admittedly by just 1) came from somewhere that exactly 3 weeks ago was in real trouble - like much of GM - and scored EIGHT times as many cases that day as it did today.

See if you can guess who. If you have been following my nightly posts you will be able to make a good stab at this.

Will post the full scores shortly.
 
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