Another new Brexit thread

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M18CTID said:
While that is admirable in an “all of us are equal” kind of way, it’s quite staggering as delaying the vaccination program in countries that are ready to go now will no doubt lead to unnecessary deaths. I wonder if the 40,000 people from the “Brussels area” who will get the jab first will contain any EU bods. Surely not! Anyway, one of the comments underneath the article:

While reading this article, I was red with anger! Here and elsewhere, thousands of people die of Corona every day. And the EU is concerned that there will be no “vaccination competition”. It's so monstrous that you can't really believe it. How much I envy the British who have separated from the "EU".
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Excellent..
 
BobKowalski said:
It’s starting to feel like an episode of Blackadder...
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‘Chris Parry, a former rear admiral and chair of the Marine Management Organisation, said ministers should act assertively. “I would seek to make an example and take a [EU fishing] boat or two into Harwich or Hastings. Once you had impounded them, the others would not be so keen to transgress without insurance.”

www.theguardian.com

Four navy ships to help protect fishing waters in case of no-deal Brexit

Exclusive: two vessels to be deployed at sea with two on standby in case EU fishing boats enter EEZ
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Here we fucking go..

The trade shit, driving permits, lorry parks and other bollocks i can cope with. When they start with this kind of fucking nonsense in the national press then things could quickly turn to shit on the peace and harmony front.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Is that not the point Bob made earlier.

From the outside looking in, you are all Brexiters, whether you voted for it or not.
The same as the shambles of 4 years is your government’s whether it’s Cameron, May or Johnson.

Britain owns the decision and again from the outside this dilemma of either wishing for a long term success or a quick failure is very interesting but something I wish we weren’t so involved in.
That’s my main interest in it all.
Whereas I wouldn’t begrudge you a long term success, my view is that it would involve a very uncomfortable period for NI and Ireland which is unwelcome.
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Steady on...
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Did they. Wonder why the majority didn't. Is there some soothesayer you're all privy to that the rest of us weren't that said "only a 98% trade deal will be agreed in a year from now!".
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I’d have thought the fact that Farage was involved would sway many against leaving or maybe Francois ? Rees mogg ? Duncan smith ? Johnson ? Gove ? A veritable who’s who of self entitled wankers . The belief that characters like these have the best interests of the general population is laughable . They have promised everything and are about to deliver nothing. Australia deal ?? It’s a no deal , they take the public for mugs and sadly a percentage still lap it up . Nobody voted to be worse off or people losing jobs. If they claim they did they are either liars or fucking idiots .
 
Len Rum said:
Countries like Canada and Japan which have FTAs with the EU do not represent a threat to the single market because they do much less trade than us and geographically they are more distant than us.
Hence the terms of their FTAs can be a little more relaxed.
Keep 'em coming mate.
No charge for the trade lessons.
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They also don’t cover anywhere near as many sectors as we would want to with the EU. In the sectors they do, they still have regulations on level playing field and state aid.
 
The really stupid thing is we’re seemingly willing to accept tariffs now just in case we might have to accept tariffs in the future. They’re somehow managing again to control the narrative in a lot of people’s eyes though.
 
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carlosthejackal said:
I’d have thought the fact that Farage was involved would sway many against leaving or maybe Francois ? Rees mogg ? Duncan smith ? Johnson ? Gove ? A veritable who’s who of self entitled wankers . The belief that characters like these have the best interests of the general population is laughable . They have promised everything and are about to deliver nothing. Australia deal ?? It’s a no deal , they take the public for mugs and sadly a percentage still lap it up . Nobody voted to be worse off or people losing jobs. If they claim they did they are either liars or fucking idiots .
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There's your problem; you associate the vote with toxic personalities, not unrelated people's own opinions, and you appear incapable of separating the two. Benn and Farage, two opposing personalities, both shared the opinion that the EU is undemocratic.

Shame, could have been a good discussion.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
There's your problem; you associate the vote with toxic personalities, not unrelated people's own opinions, and you appear incapable of separating the two. Benn and Farage, two opposing personalities, both shared the opinion that the EU is undemocratic.

Shame, could have been a good discussion.
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What a laugh. Benn was never going to be involved.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
There's your problem; you associate the vote with toxic personalities, not unrelated people's own opinions, and you appear incapable of separating the two. Benn and Farage, two opposing personalities, both shared the opinion that the EU is undemocratic.

Shame, could have been a good discussion.
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Its was clearly the arseholes choice. Every massive cock on the political scene was pro Brexit. That doesn't mean all brexiteers were arseholes but all arseholes were brexiteers.
 
meltonblue said:
The really stupid thing is we’re seemingly willing to accept tariffs now just in case we might have to accept tariffs in the future. They’re somehow managing again to control the narrative in a lot of people’s eyes though.
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I hope I'm still alive when the national archives releases the files on the negotiations.

I have a feeling it'll be reams of correspondence from the EU with the UK response being "New Phone, who's this?"
 
Gaudion M said:
Its was clearly the arseholes choice. Every massive cock on the political scene was pro Brexit. That doesn't mean all brexiteers were arseholes but all arseholes were brexiteers.
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You're using cliche arguments now?
 
meltonblue said:
The really stupid thing is we’re seemingly willing to accept tariffs now just in case we might have to accept tariffs in the future. They’re somehow managing again to control the narrative in a lot of people’s eyes though.
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That’s exactly right. If we sign up to the LPF and the EU change the regulations for a particular product we wouldn’t be forced to accept those new rules. We could always revert to tariffs for those specific items. As it is we’re going for tariffs on everything. It’s sounds fucking insane but in reality it proves that No Deal suits a lot of influential people who are Johnson’s backers, even if it makes 95% of the population poorer as a result.
 
M18CTID said:
While that is admirable in an “all of us are equal” kind of way, it’s quite staggering as delaying the vaccination program in countries that are ready to go now will no doubt lead to unnecessary deaths. I wonder if the 40,000 people from the “Brussels area” who will get the jab first will contain any EU bods. Surely not! Anyway, one of the comments underneath the article:

While reading this article, I was red with anger! Here and elsewhere, thousands of people die of Corona every day. And the EU is concerned that there will be no “vaccination competition”. It's so monstrous that you can't really believe it. How much I envy the British who have separated from the "EU".
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When you subscribe to ''Freedom of Movement'' it makes sense for the 27 to begin vaccination at the same time.


At least it sounds like a plan.
 
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Len Rum said:
The silence of Rishi Sunak on Brexit is deafening.
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Allowing Sajid Javid to step down, siding with Cummings, was one of Johnson’s biggest mistakes.

Javid is a thoroughly impressive individual and Sunak is totally overrated.
 
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