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marcus said:
Majority of people all the way through have needed to have there hands held and be led.
Fb is full of “am i allowed to do this or that”. An amazing amount of people lack any sort of common sense
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Yep. We are surrounded by absolute idiots. Anyone who can't see that is either 1) an idiot themselves or 2) living in a place I desperately want to live in too.
 
Healdplace said:
We need another vaccine approved before we can make real progress as we really have a big dependence on the Oxford one in terms of being able to vaccinate all but the top most vulnerable quickly.

Then we will face the issue of because of the negative publicity over the Oxford and its lower protection levels some will no doubt start declining and saying they will wait 'till you get more of the better one'.

Messaging over this will again be essential but every time I hear that about things right now I can only think of it likely to be the first four letters of messaging not the other five.
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I hope this is just the Guardian being negative

www.theguardian.com

People from ethnic minorities less likely to accept Covid vaccine, says poll

Only 57% of people from minority ethnic backgrounds say they will have jab if GP advises them to
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Nicola Sturgeon; 'Scotland has the lowest case numbers of all four nations'

The doctor adds - they may be lower than the other 3 nations but are still high.
 
kaz7 said:
Boris Johnson has said all UK nations have reached a "unanimous agreement" to go ahead with planned Christmas bubble rules.

But he added that people should "exercise a high degree of personal responsibility" if they do spend time with family over the festive period.

It comes after a phone call between Westminster and the devolved nations, which took place amid growing pressure on the government to scrap the easing of rules over Christmas.


Yeah right , i am sure the welsh guy said fine lets do it
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To be fair I think I heard Wales agreed with Boris all along, it was Scotland who didn’t (shock).

I think a compromise of reducing the days was needed but they couldn’t just cancel it.
 
So Wales announce they are going into teir 4 at Christmas but the government are still relaxing the Covid rules during that time.

Do these people in power actually talk to each other?

It's utterly baffling. No wonder so many people are confused
 
kippaxwarrior said:
So Wales announce they are going into teir 4 at Christmas but the government are still relaxing the Covid rules during that time.

Do these people in power actually talk to each other?

It's utterly baffling. No wonder so many people are confused
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I think you are possibly mixing up the just announced rules that will apply in Wales from the 28th onwards with the unanimously agreed rules over Christmas itself
 
Question: Is there a date for when everyone in Scotland will be vaccinated?

Doctor: Would love to give you a date if this were a magical world. We plan to vaccinate 4.5 million people with 2 doses 28 days apart. A mammoth undertaking. The 15 minute observation makes it less straightforward. In best circumstances it would still take months. Late Spring at the very very earliest.

It is not going to be a matter of days even if we had all the vaccine we need.

Nicola Sturgeon adds - we obviously need to have the supplies of the vaccines first.
 
Nicola Sturgeon asked about Boris just claiming that all four nations agreed.

She adds she told Boris she would retain flexibility to act and that Scotland is NOT saying a 5 day period to meet others is the rule. She stressed they agreed this is the MAXIMUM and she is asking people to stay at home if they can.
 
Healdplace said:
Question: Is there a date for when everyone in Scotland will be vaccinated?

Doctor: Would love to give you a date if this were a magical world. We plan to vaccinate 4.5 million people with 2 doses 28 days apart. A mammoth undertaking. The 15 minute observation makes it less straightforward. In best circumstances it would still take months. Late Spring at the very very earliest.

It is not going to be a matter of days even if we had all the vaccine we need.

Nicola Sturgeon adds - we obviously need to have the supplies of the vaccines first.
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Vaccine supply has got to be the biggest concern at the moment we may have the orders in place but have no control over who gets first dibs we need the Oxford vaccine to become self sufficient
 
Nicola Sturgeon - Whatever happens I will spend the rest of my days agonising over whether I made the right decision. But I have to factor in many things here. This is not a simple decision.

But we do NOT think you should be travelling to other parts of the UK from Scotland - and singled out Wales and London as places she asks not to go.
 
Has the Oxford vaccine been approved yet? Or is there a timescale when that's likely to happen?

Failing that, I wonder at which point the UK bite the bullet so to speak with Pfizer and simply order as many as required to vaccinate the whole country and invest invest invest in the logistics of making it happen. No, I know its nowhere near as simple as this but to get out of this mess as soon as possible we surely need to be doing absolutely everything that we can.
 
Ayrshire, Someone involved with the Oxford vaccine last night said on TV they were expecting it to be approved by the end of December but likely limited to the 62% two full doses regime only. Though they would continue studies into the 1.5 doses 'accident' and working to test a combined Oxford/Sputnik. But these are much longer term.

They also thought that the combination of different vaccines to make the best levels of protection available at the cheapest cost will be crucial during 2021 as the pandemic will not end when rich countries are vaccinated.
 
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mosssideblue said:
The additional resources already stretched to ensure the vaccine is still adequate, or do you believe it should just be ignored and we simply collectively cross our fingers.
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There have been over 10,000 mutations already ffs and 4000 that are being monitored in the UK right now. It’s a total non story designed for people like you to lap up and use when telling everyone not to leave their houses or see family over Xmas.
 
kaz7 said:
Welsh First Minister Mark Drakeford advised that only two households should be able to "form an exclusive Christmas bubble", in a slight breakaway from Westminster.

Boris says three
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To be honest kaz7 I dont think many will listen to the government. People will just do what they want. Been like that in thanet for ages now.
Lots of school kids in the town who should be in school or self isolating. Lots of adults dont wear masks in shops etc. See people shaking hands, hugging and kiss on the cheek in town.
We have been in tier 3 since the last lockdown, and lots of people just carry on like normal.
Working amongst the public I am more worried now than I was in the summer.
 
Wales are going into Alert level 4 at the end of trading on the 24th. No idea how long for!
 
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