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Didsbury Dave said:
If there was a single shred of even tenuous evidence that that was possibly going to be the case, every single Brexit loon the length of the country would be bangling on about it incessantly by now as a smokescreen for the chaos. We'd have heard nothing else from the likes of Baker, Rees Mogg, Farage, Banks and Hopkins, and The Mail, Express and Telegraph, for four and a half years years.

But they aren't. There's only you.
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Not only me mate

The benefits of being free of the EU's controls will not become evident until, well we are free of the EU's controls

If we get a genuine Brexit then I think that we will see quite a few between now and 2024 in response to Covid - but the best will come in the years beyond that

I doubt that you will thank people 'like me' - but at least, in years to come, you may pause and think about it

Anyway - time to start my 'pre-match routine'
 
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mcfc1632 said:
Not only me mate

The benefits of being free of the EU's controls will not become evident until, well we are free of the EU's controls

If we get a genuine Brexit then I think that we will see quite a few between now and 2024 in response to Covid - but the best will come in the years beyond that

I doubt that you will thank people 'like me' - but at least, in years to come, you may pause and think about it

Anyway - time to start mu 'pre-match routine'
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So, that’s never then?

I mean we have spent two days trying to get the French to reopen the border which cuts across the UK supply windpipe and you‘re threading daisy chains in fucking la la land.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Strange omission, you missed off:

Gains:

.......plus achieving a genuine Brexit that had seemed previously impossible and will be key to enabling the UK to be a successful economy for generations to come
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I will believe a financial upside when its baked into the UK budget.

Nothing to see in this years budget which covers the next 5 years.
obviously prosper-mightily hasn’t made it as far as our financial plan yet.

Over the forecast, the OBR has revised down its forecast for cumulative GDP growth by 0.5 percentage points, largely reflecting downward revisions to potential productivity and net migration. The OBR expects GDP growth of 1.1% in 2020, revised down from 1.4% in its Spring Statement 2019 forecast, with weaker contributions from both consumption and business investment growth. The OBR expects annual consumption growth to be 1.1% and for there to be no growth in business investment in 2020 (Chart 1.2). GDP growth is then expected to increase to 1.8% in 2021 before slowing slightly, reaching 1.4% in 2024.

Still no benefits to see. All smoke, mirrors and guff.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I will believe a financial upside when its baked into the UK budget.

Nothing to see in this years budget which covers the next 5 years.
obviously prosper-mightily hasn’t made it as far as our financial plan yet.

Over the forecast, the OBR has revised down its forecast for cumulative GDP growth by 0.5 percentage points, largely reflecting downward revisions to potential productivity and net migration. The OBR expects GDP growth of 1.1% in 2020, revised down from 1.4% in its Spring Statement 2019 forecast, with weaker contributions from both consumption and business investment growth. The OBR expects annual consumption growth to be 1.1% and for there to be no growth in business investment in 2020 (Chart 1.2). GDP growth is then expected to increase to 1.8% in 2021 before slowing slightly, reaching 1.4% in 2024.

Still no benefits to see. All smoke, mirrors and guff.
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You’ll see the benefits when you get the sack of gold sovereigns they keep promising us. Think that’s what they said.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I will believe a financial upside when its baked into the UK budget.

Nothing to see in this years budget which covers the next 5 years.
obviously prosper-mightily hasn’t made it as far as our financial plan yet.

Over the forecast, the OBR has revised down its forecast for cumulative GDP growth by 0.5 percentage points, largely reflecting downward revisions to potential productivity and net migration. The OBR expects GDP growth of 1.1% in 2020, revised down from 1.4% in its Spring Statement 2019 forecast, with weaker contributions from both consumption and business investment growth. The OBR expects annual consumption growth to be 1.1% and for there to be no growth in business investment in 2020 (Chart 1.2). GDP growth is then expected to increase to 1.8% in 2021 before slowing slightly, reaching 1.4% in 2024.

Still no benefits to see. All smoke, mirrors and guff.
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Don‘t worry the dodgy money will start flowing into Singapore on Thames soon enough and the City Hedge Funds will boom, awash with Russian money being laundered through the UK...
 
BobKowalski said:
So, let’s take stock of progress to date.

Losses: Northern Ireland, Gibraltar, freedom of movement for UK nationals and higher trade barriers with Europe.

Gains: Blue passports, a bit more fish, lots of lorry parks.
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Bloody typical remainer. When listing the gains you forgot the unicorns. How the fuck can you forget unicorns? Next you'll be telling us we might have to wait a couple of generations to enter the sunlit uplands.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
i don’t see it as a cave in. I see it as a good compromise. We are leaving the single market, customs union, making trade deals, ending freedom of movement and lots of other things that in 2016 didn’t seem possible.

I have mentioned this before but in my opinion most brexit voters will be happy. Pretty much the cleanest type of brexit we could hope for.
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Yep, fishing is now the only snag, we wait and see. The only thing that concerned me was the arbitration on any LPF being within the oversight of
the ECJ, which was totally unacceptable, it looks like this will now be independent arbitration, so for me, so far so good.
 
Oh FFS ... The UK is paying $37 per dose of the Moderna Vaccine. The EU have negotiated $18 per dose. Both purchasers ordered 40 million doses.

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The Eu offered to let the UK join its buying consortium, but the UK turned them down.

Let's hope we negotiated better on the trade agreement.
 
NHS leaders have called on Boris Johnson to extend the Brexit transition period by a month, telling the prime minister that a no-deal exit could risk the health of patients during the Covid-19 crisis.

Faced with an alarming rise in infections, they said a month’s delay would take the health service out of “the immediate danger zone” and would “enable the NHS to continue to focus on fighting the pandemic without having to contend with disruptive changes brought about by a no-deal outcome”.

The call came in an NHS Confederation letter telling Johnson that “tough” action similar to the new tier 4 rules was needed to avoid a disruptive cliff-edge moment on 1 January and help protect the NHS.
 
I see the papers are back to abusing the French...that will help the mood music during on going negotiations :)

Also, the last two days has demonstrated that to manage your border efficiently you need the cooperation of the country on the other side, because it’s their border too. So if we end up with no deal or a deal with enhanced customs and administrative hoops to jump through and we don’t want lorry queues and annoyed drivers, then being on friendly terms with your neighbours is essential.
 
BobKowalski said:
I see the papers are back to abusing the French...that will help the mood music during on going negotiations :)

Also, the last two days has demonstrated that to manage your border efficiently you need the cooperation of the country on the other side, because it’s their border too. So if we end up with no deal or a deal with enhanced customs and administrative hoops to jump through and we don’t want lorry queues and annoyed drivers, then being on friendly terms with your neighbours is essential.
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Tell the French that. :-)
 
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