Everton (A) | Game Postponed

[Boo or Boo-urns]

Poor Victor Anichebe missing out on his chance as a guest pundit for his 2nd time ever. :(

 

[BlueLou82]

He has a point though, clearly the ruined evening for a couple of thousand spectators is far more important than people’s health and even whether they might die

Or maybe it was due to a matchday being planned which involves police (albeit a smaller scale) security, catering, stewards, fans, club staff, the players all probably at or on their way to Goodison preparing for the game when the club was just informed it was called off.

Maybe if we were involved, we could have planned for a postponement, or sided with city and agreed it earlier so we could prevent all of the above. The club are well within their right to be informed of something that affects them

 

[BringBackSwales]

To those kicking off about us wanting full transparency, here is Villas statement on their postponed game when Newcastle had an outbreak

Aston Villa can confirm that the Club fully supports the Premier League’s decision to postpone our fixture with Newcastle United on Friday following a significant COVID outbreak at the Tyneside club and the shutdown of their training ground by Public Health England.

We would like to thank both the Premier League Board and Newcastle United for their comprehensive and transparent communication during the process which resulted in this decision being reached.

Everybody at Aston Villa wishes a speedy recovery to all those at Newcastle United affected by the virus.

I particularly note that last paragraph. Classy, so the complete opposite of the classless neverton statement

 

[TomDixie]

It isn't an issue with me, the PL should absolutely be disclosing the reasons for their decision and that is what any reasonable business would do. It's not only Everton FC who need to know, the wider world of football needs to know. I'm scratching my head as to why people would think about City deliberately seeking to get this game postponed.....they are in a pretty good moment, against a team who would be missing several regulars. Perfect time to play them. However, the caveat to that - and it's a massive one - is City don't want to go and infect another team with the virus (imagine the sh*t we'd cop for that!)....and that has to be applauded, however late in the day it is. This virus doesn't f*ck about or discriminate, trust me. Health. Comes. First.

So assuming City sent the results of their Covid tests to the PL, the PL then has to seek medical advice on what to do. From that advice they concluded the game must be called off. That being the case......tell the effing world why it's happened! It instantly shuts down all these gobshite fans and even bigger gobshite journalists on social media, who think City are pulling a fast one. But then the words 'Premier League' and 'transparency' have never gone together.......and to be honest neither have the words 'gobshite fans', 'gobshite journalists' and 'common sense'.

I agree with all of this.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Or maybe it was due to a matchday being planned which involves police (albeit a smaller scale) security, catering, stewards, fans, club staff, the players all probably at or on their way to Goodison preparing for the game when the club was just informed it was called off.

Maybe if we were involved, we could have planned for a postponement, or sided with city and agreed it earlier so we could prevent all of the above. The club are well within their right to be informed of something that affects them

While my heart bleeds for these poor inconvenienced people, allow me to care a lot fucking more about people who have a dreadful virus, and about the need to stop a lot of other people getting it. Let’s light a candle and have a whip round to compensate for a few hundred wasted fucking pies

 

[Horlocksleftpeg]

There might be an issue of when they INFORMED efc but they had no need to consult them, this is a medical matter, not a matter of inconvenience

It’s both.

The ultimate decision lies with the premier league and I don’t think Everton’s opinion should be taken in to consideration but the least they deserve is communication.

Can you imagine this was Nadal Vs Federer and one of the players tested positive, the other would be kept in the loop 100%. I don’t see where the issue lies.

 

[BlueLou82]

I particularly note that last paragraph. Classy, so the complete opposite of the classless neverton statement

Maybe due to the paragraph above it seemingly not applying to Everton or this game

 

[cleavers]

Information can be shared in a way that protects privacy however.

Not on an individuals health information.

It's entirely possible (though rumour suggests otherwise, it could be all our EDS that has gone down with it, and we're playing silly games, but that information is still private to the individual (I don't think that for one minute).

I actually think we have probably protected people at your club today.

 

[TomDixie]

While my heart bleeds for these poor inconvenienced people, allow me to care a lot fucking more about people who have a dreadful virus, and about the need to stop a lot of other people getting it. Let’s light a candle and have a whip round to compensate for a few hundred wasted pies

I think you should consider separating out the health issue (postponement is fine) and the way this has been handled by the Prem (lack of transparency is not fine).

 

[Corky]

Actually under GDPR rules they have no reason to "know exactly who has covid", it's entirely a private health matter for the individual concerned whether it's made public.

That has always been the case before GDPR, and GDPR actually longer applies in the UK from Friday, but thankfully we have the GPA 2018 still holding up data processing integrity.

 

[BringBackSwales]

It’s both.

The ultimate decision lies with the premier league and I don’t think Everton’s opinion should be taken in to consideration but the least they deserve is communication.

Can you imagine this was Nadal Vs Federer and one of the players tested positive, the other would be kept in the loop 100%. I don’t see where the issue lies.

They were told FOUR HOURS before. As I said the issue here is health and safety.

 

[TomDixie]

Not on an individuals health information.

It's entirely possible (though rumour suggests otherwise, it could be all our EDS that has gone down with it, and we're playing silly games, but that information is still private to the individual (I don't think that for one minute).

I actually think we have probably protected people at your club today.

I agree, you probably have. I have no issue with the postponement.

The issue is the lack of transparency from the Prem about how the decision was made.

We can't have matches being called off just hours in advance without the host club having a clue as to what is going on.

 

[BlueLou82]

While my heart bleeds for these poor inconvenienced people, allow me to care a lot fucking more about people who have a dreadful virus, and about the need to stop a lot of other people getting it. Let’s light a candle and have a whip round to compensate for a few hundred wasted pies

Completely missed the point. Correct call was made. The way it was made is in question

It’s both.

The ultimate decision lies with the premier league and I don’t think Everton’s opinion should be taken in to consideration but the least they deserve is communication.

Can you imagine this was Nadal Vs Federer and one of the players tested positive, the other would be kept in the loop 100%. I don’t see where the issue lies.

Agree, I honestly dont understand why some people are getting all twisted about it and taking it to heart.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Maybe due to the paragraph above it seemingly not applying to Everton or this game

You’ve lost me there. Where was the neverton statement about hoping the sick people fully recovered soon?

 

[BringBackSwales]

I think you should consider separating out the health issue (postponement is fine) and the way this has been handled by the Prem (lack of transparency is not fine).

One is really important and one isn’t, that’s the way I would differentiate the 2 issues

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Or maybe it was due to a matchday being planned which involves police (albeit a smaller scale) security, catering, stewards, fans, club staff, the players all probably at or on their way to Goodison preparing for the game when the club was just informed it was called off.

Maybe if we were involved, we could have planned for a postponement, or sided with city and agreed it earlier so we could prevent all of the above. The club are well within their right to be informed of something that affects them

Planning in a pandemic goes beyond even Scousers in who it doesn't give two fucks about. Get over yourselves, its nobodys fault and shit happens

 

[Postman Pep]

It isn't an issue with me, the PL should absolutely be disclosing the reasons for their decision and that is what any reasonable business would do. It's not only Everton FC who need to know, the wider world of football needs to know. I'm scratching my head as to why people would think about City deliberately seeking to get this game postponed.....they are in a pretty good moment, against a team who would be missing several regulars. Perfect time to play them. However, the caveat to that - and it's a massive one - is City don't want to go and infect another team with the virus (imagine the sh*t we'd cop for that!)....and that has to be applauded, however late in the day it is. This virus doesn't f*ck about or discriminate, trust me. Health. Comes. First.

So assuming City sent the results of their Covid tests to the PL, the PL then has to seek medical advice on what to do. From that advice they concluded the game must be called off. That being the case......tell the effing world why it's happened! It instantly shuts down all these gobshite fans and even bigger gobshite journalists on social media, who think City are pulling a fast one. But then the words 'Premier League' and 'transparency' have never gone together.......and to be honest neither have the words 'gobshite fans', 'gobshite journalists' and 'common sense'.

To be fair they put out a statement but it didn't suit the gobshite narrative and was drowned in foam

 

[TomDixie]

I'm bowing out until the rescheduled fixture.

Cheers to the sensible, polite ones.

Good luck for your other fixtures. I hope you stop that lot retaining the title.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Classy Villa statement, classless scouse statement, not really surprising is it?

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

I think this notion of players being in a bubble, getting rigourously tested but then having to stay in a hotel where the staff arnt tested and nobody knows who they have been mixing with and where they have been is scandalous

Thats not to have a go at the staff but you would think with the amount of money in the PL, they could have one central hotel in a city to use for teams travelling, or pay for staff testing in the hotels.

Just seems crazy that this isnt taken into consideration

Why not just fly down on a private plane, be met by the team bus and be taken directly to the stadium. Don't really see the need to be staying in a hotel, especially in a tier 4 area, where the new strain is on the rise. Just seems like common sense to avoid these places.