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Healdplace said:
Testing numbers over Christmas pillar 1 and 2

TESTS V CASES FOUND

24 DEC 463, 123 v 32, 725

25 DEC 339, 024 v 35, 691

26 DEC 269, 876 v 30, 501

27 DEC 352, 702 v 41, 385

28 DEC 351, 140 v 53, 135
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I normally ignore daily figures, too volatile to mean much.

But if those are borne out for another day or two we're in a truly catastrophic situation, particularly given test numbers.

Remember that the hospital crisis starting to be reported is reflecting cases from a week or two ago, and these case numbers have now *doubled* since then. So, again, *if* sustained, we can expect admissions then deaths to double too.

And this is on a rising trend.

I really hope this is a blip and we see a significant fall tomorrow.
 
I heard Jason Leitch, Senior clinical Advisor to the Scottish Government, say that he expected the effects of Christmas Day gatherings to appear around January 5th, so the figures will likely continue to climb until then and maybe even beyond.

Can’t help think it would be more prudent to move schools entirely online in January and to redeploy the military to accelerate the vaccination programme.
 
Do we know how long the vaccine immunity lasts for?
Will everyone need the vaccine every year?
Do you become gradually less immune over time?
 
REGIONAL SCOREBOARD

SOUTH:- These numbers speak volumes as to how all this has been obvious for weeks and next to nothing was done other than let everyone have a merry Christmas,

Followed by a catastrophic new year to pay for it.

This imo is a national scandal. No less.

As it was totally foreseeable. Many in here saw it weeks ago so you do not have to be a genius.



LONDON 14, 885 - up from 12, 331. Highest ever.

wk to wk over past month 2203 v 4238 v 10, 201 v 14, 885



EAST 7222 - up from 5799. Highest ever.

wk to wk past weeks 2294 v 4575 v 7229



SOUTH EAST 8886 - up from 6590. Highest ever.

Wk to wk over past month 1944 v 3122 v 6220 v 8886 TODAY
 
mackenzie said:
So why were they built if the NHS is now in danger of being "overwhelmed?"
Plus, as some other posters have said, the Covid infection of those admitted to hospital with other things is very real??
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They are a safety net, close to being overwhelmed now same as being close to being overwhelmed in April isn’t the same as has been overwhelmed.
Hopefully it won’t be and if needs be if one area is overwhelmed another can take up the excess. If not though it’s better to have the nightingales there if needed than not there.
Imagine the hospitals can’t cope and we putting patients on trolleys in sports centres, the criticism the government would quite rightly get for nor being prepared.
They will though only be a last resort because we’d have to staff with volunteers , retired , students , military.
 
REGIONAL SCOREBOARD

MIDLANDS also up big at 3993 - from 2103.

wk to wk over past month 1065 v 1573 v 2283 v 3993
 
Healdplace said:
Testing numbers over Christmas pillar 1 and 2

TESTS V CASES FOUND

24 DEC 463, 123 v 32, 725

25 DEC 339, 024 v 35, 691

26 DEC 269, 876 v 30, 501

27 DEC 352, 702 v 41, 385

28 DEC 351, 140 v 53, 135
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I find the figure to be confusing and the only way I can make sense of it is to look at the positive cases as a percentage of the tests undertaken.
By my calculations this means a real surge in the last week, really worried that the mixing on Xmas day will only just starting to appear.

24th Dec = 7% positive
25th Dec = 9.5% positive
26th Dec = 11.3% positive
27th Dec = 11.7% positive
28th Dec = 15.1% positive.
 
mackenzie said:
So why were they built if the NHS is now in danger of being "overwhelmed?"
Plus, as some other posters have said, the Covid infection of those admitted to hospital with other things is very real??
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And there is talk about tenting being put up at some hospitals to cope with the overflow, don't know how true this is.
 
The consequences of failing to act before Christmas are only just starting to become apparent.

These figures are reflecting infections acquired at least a week ago - *before* the govt chose to leave most of the country in tier 2 or 3. There's every reason to believe they will continue to rise exponentially for at least another week outside tier 4 areas even if drastic action is taken today.

It will be very instructive to see if the tier 4 restrictions halt the rise in those areas or not. We can hope.
 
REGIONAL SCOREBOARD - THE NORTH

NORTH EAST 1230 - up from 699

wk to wk 406 v 460 v 1253 v 1230


YORKSHIRE 1886 - up from 1760

wk to wk 837 v 1161 v 1612 v 1760


AND


NORTH WEST 4194 - up big from 2551

wk to wk 1154 v 1576 v 2358 v 4194


Not hard to see who is in trouble and who next door is not.

Everywhere going up but at present Yorkshire (which had the lowest % of cases in the new strain and not rising week to week at last data I saw) doing FAR better than the other regions - down south, in the midlands and in the NW where this strain was already there weeks ago and was accelerating.

Missing this and not acting on it for weeks knowing what Christmas would do might even bring down this government.


We certainly need them out there talking to us now not tomorrow or next week.
 
The first place in Manchester to start vaccinating was Wythenshawe and they were starting with the over eighties I believe? This was mooted at starting well over a week ago yet I've seen and heard nothing since. My parents live there and are both in their eighties yet haven't heard a thing. I'm wondering exactly how many people over eighty are there in Wythenshawe and how are they rolling it out, if they have started.?
 
paulchapo said:
The first place in Manchester to start vaccinating was Wythenshawe and they were starting with the over eighties I believe? This was mooted at starting well over a week ago yet I've seen and heard nothing since. My parents live there and are both in their eighties yet haven't heard a thing. I'm wondering exactly how many people over eighty are there in Wythenshawe and how are they rolling it out, if they have started.?
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They have been vaccinating 3 weeks in Salford Royal and Stepping Hill.

But my friend who is very vulnerable was told from the off she would get hers next week with the Oxford vaccine as that can be administered far more easily at places like the Etihad campus where she is expecting to go.

They have focused on inpatients and outpatients as the vaccine we have now is fairly limited in numbers and in ability to move around.

Oxford - IF it happens next week - will change everything.

The near future of the UK largely rests on it tbh.
 
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