Conspiracy theories......

Uncle Wally One Ball said:
Jesus Christ. You do know there was a major investigation into this that nobody bothers listening to and instead watch shite documentaries like that? Sir John Stevens' investigation looker into every single allegatoon brought up by the media and all conspiracy theorists and it is like it never happened. Operation Paget. You should read the report. You wont of course, conspiracy theorists never read facts.
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I’m just summarising the points you fanny. Some of them aren’t even points they’re facts.

I’ve not got an opinion either way tbh.
Which points do you believe not to be true? Al-Fayes confirmed the blood test one and the guy in the tunnel being found dead due to suicide is also a factual instance. It’s also a fact about the CCTV showing Paul behaving normally and not someone who was drunk.

These aren’t really conspiracy points they’re facts. It depends on how you interpret these facts on how you view the event.

Personally I don’t think it’s enough to say ‘this was 100% a conspiracy’ but thanks for judging simply because I posted points people might not have known in order to broaden the discussion.
 
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To be honest, there’s no point in even having this thread if any points are going to be shut down with ‘but the official report says’. The whole point of a conspiracy is that it offers something different than an official report and factually speaking some official reports turn out not to be accurate in rare occasions, which is why we have threads and discussions like this.
 
East Level 2 said:
Always been something dodgy about the Diana case:
The survivor was the only one wearing a seat belt. Dodgy or what? It's almost as though the wearer thought of it as some sort of safety device.
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The royals knobbled her. We're not allowed to criticize our royal family. Gawd Bless her.
 
All those things mentioned might be true but still, if Henri Paul had drove at 30mph, no stolen fiat panda, flashing cameras would of caused him to crash in way that guaranteed Diana's death.
 
im that rare rangers fan that doesn't like the monarchy but im not sure they killed her, they might have but unsure, I thought she was a bit of an overrated waste of space and have no idea why so many did and do revere her, probably celebrity worship syndrome. We see it with muppets like beckham and ronaldo too who also don't deserve that level of sycophancy. But id never have wished death on her at such a young age. I dont think she was a bad person, just very misguided and naive. Rip.
 
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Ban-jani said:
As someone who knows several nurses and has a very good friend who’s an NHS doctor, this is complete and utter horse bollocks and in paper form, isn’t worth wiping your arse with.
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I agree. My grandad died of covid and it is his funeral later today. I wasn't gonna mention that on here but that lads post bothers me.

He was in ibrox the day of the disaster too but he survived while two of his friends perished.
 
Messi38 said:
I agree. My grandad died of covid and it is his funeral later today. I wasn't gonna mention that on here but that lads post bothers me.

He was in ibrox the day of the disaster too but he survived while two of his friends perished.
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Sorry to hear about your grandad mate, may the Lord watch over him.

In defence of the poster I quoted, he did say he didn’t believe it and was just repeating some nonsense he heard.
 
Ban-jani said:
Sorry to hear about your grandad mate, may the Lord watch over him.

In defence of the poster I quoted, he did say he didn’t believe it and was just repeating some nonsense he heard.
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Thanks mate, I appreciate your kind words. He was a kind, funny, friendly man who loved his football, extremely popular. Youd have liked him. Just hate that people weren't allowed in to see him before he died and that we can't have a proper funeral, only 20 of us allowed and a live stream. However, we will celebrate his life when the world returns to some semblance of normality.

Im sorry too if I got the wrong end of things with the poster you quoted, I just got triggered, thats all.
 
I’ve got a mate who spouts all the Covid conspiracy bullshit on a WhatsApp group constantly

every time it takes me 5 minutes of googling to come up with a stat or a fact to prove he’s talking shite but he come back with more

he’s been brainwashed by the nut cases he follows on social media and me and a few others think he’s gonna end up in the bottom block
 
Messi38 said:
im that rare rangers fan that doesn't like the monarchy but im not sure they killed her, they might have but unsure, I thought she was a bit of an overrated waste of space and have no idea why so many did and do revere her, probably celebrity worship syndrome. We see it with muppets like beckham and ronaldo too who also don't deserve that level of sycophancy. But id never have wished death on her at such a young age. I dont think she was a bad person, just very misguided and naive. Rip.
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Hi mate I read your post with interest.
I am no fan of royalty, I would like to see it abolished, however I did have a very soft spot for Diana.
In my opinion she was given the title of the people's princess for very good reasons.
I know she came from a privileged background but all through her marriage you got the sense that she was an outsider in the royal family and that she was more like one of us.
Of course when she hugged the child who was dying of AIDS that was a huge moment even the hospital staff looked aghast that she did that, and I can't see any other member of the royal family risking their life doing that, to risk acquiring a disease that very little was known about at the time.
She was holding hands and hugging patients who were dying with AIDS.
I thought to myself I'm not sure I could do that at the time and I hold my hands up to her for her caring and her bravery.
She was treated badly by the royal family Prince Philip had no time for her and the other snobs pretty much ignored her, obviously Charles treated her like shit also and carried on his affair with Camilla after the wedding.
The outpouring of grief at her funeral showed the effect that she had on people and people showed genuine grief at her death.
I must admit even I, a person who hates royalty, entitlement, titles and all forms of class snobbery felt a great deal about her and was very saddened by her death in my opinion she was a truly great person.

Your point about this being "celebrity worship syndrome" isn't that with me as I don't worship celebrities. I don't even like celebrities except the truly talented ones, so for me there was something about Diane that people identified with.
I'm not a wordsmith like @Two Gun Bob so I can't put into words why she had that effect on people like me.
I just know that she did.
 
nimrod said:
Hi mate I read your post with interest.
I am no fan of royalty, I would like to see it abolished, however I did have a very soft spot for Diana.
In my opinion she was given the title of the people's princess for very good reasons.
I know she came from a privileged background but all through her marriage you got the sense that she was an outsider in the royal family and that she was more like one of us.
Of course when she hugged the child who was dying of AIDS that was a huge moment even the hospital staff looked aghast that she did that, and I can't see any other member of the royal family risking their life doing that, to risk acquiring a disease that very little was known about at the time.
She was holding hands and hugging patients who were dying with AIDS.
I thought to myself I'm not sure I could do that at the time and I hold my hands up to her for her caring and her bravery.
She was treated badly by the royal family Prince Philip had no time for her and the other snobs pretty much ignored her, obviously Charles treated her like shit also and carried on his affair with Camilla after the wedding.
The outpouring of grief at her funeral showed the effect that she had on people and people showed genuine grief at her death.
I must admit even I, a person who hates royalty, entitlement, titles and all forms of class snobbery felt a great deal about her and was very saddened by her death in my opinion she was a truly great person.

Your point about this being "celebrity worship syndrome" isn't that with me as I don't worship celebrities. I don't even like celebrities except the truly talented ones, so for me there was something about Diane that people identified with.
I'm not a wordsmith like @Two Gun Bob so I can't put into words why she had that effect on people like me.
I just know that she did.
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Fair play m8
 
chaddblue said:
I’ve got a mate who spouts all the Covid conspiracy bullshit on a WhatsApp group constantly

every time it takes me 5 minutes of googling to come up with a stat or a fact to prove he’s talking shite but he come back with more

he’s been brainwashed by the nut cases he follows on social media and me and a few others think he’s gonna end up in the bottom block
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It's one thing not personally knowing a conspiracy theorist if they spout such bollocks but when our friends or family members start doing it, it becomes distressing. Like you, I've got a few friends peddling this stuff too. One in particular on my FB has annoyed me more than any other. He posted some pic the other week about the vaccine and Bill Gates allegedly wanting to reduce the global population. First comment was from a woman who said she'll take the vaccine. He asked her why and she said it's because her brother is currently in ICU with pneumonia brought on by Covid and they weren't sure whether he was going to pull through. Someone else commented that they'd had it in a bad way too. The c*nt didn't even apologise to either of them, so the next time he sent some Covid conspiracy shite to me via Messenger I called the fucker out for carrying it on even after what these friends had told him about their personal experiences. I told him that by continuing to claim Covid is a hoax, he was effectively calling his friends liars. Needless to say, he didn't have an answer to that.

Some of these people are literally beyond help - as you say, you hit them with a few facts and they come back with even more bullshit - and short of hundreds of bodies falling at their feet, the only way they'll ever believe that it's real is if a close friend or family member dies from it or they themselves get a serious dose of it.
 
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