Coronavirus (2021) thread

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twosips said:
Context always needed tbf. Not quite doomsday stuff yet.

"Prof Madhi said it was "unlikely" that the mutation in South Africa would make the current vaccines useless, but might "weaken the impact"."

"It's a theoretical concern. A reasonable concern… that the South African variant might be more resistant,"
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Plus even if it does, a modification to make the vaccine 95% effective again, would take weeks, not months
 
marcus said:
My heads gone west tonight. Worries about work as im self emp, worries about my little uns who have broke there heart tonight when told they dont see there pals again (only 8&5 my youngest 2, so they know its because of c19 but they dont really understand). Worries about my terminally ill mum.
I literally cannot foresee a time of relative normality in life.
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Gotta keep strong mate, we’re a handful of months away before it’s better.
 
marcus said:
My heads gone west tonight. Worries about work as im self emp, worries about my little uns who have broke there heart tonight when told they dont see there pals again (only 8&5 my youngest 2, so they know its because of c19 but they dont really understand). Worries about my terminally ill mum.
I literally cannot foresee a time of relative normality in life.
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If the virus behaves and the vaccine rollout goes OK we'll have 13 million vaccinated in 6 weeks on top of the millions who have been infected.
 
city saint said:
so the south african strain could be resistant to vaccines ffs,so says bbc news shoot me now
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I really wouldn’t worry about that, the vaccines were always going to go through some modifications in the long run to cope with different strains and it will still have some impact. The important thing is the base vaccine is there.
 
marcus said:
My heads gone west tonight. Worries about work as im self emp, worries about my little uns who have broke there heart tonight when told they dont see there pals again (only 8&5 my youngest 2, so they know its because of c19 but they dont really understand). Worries about my terminally ill mum.
I literally cannot foresee a time of relative normality in life.
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Hang in there mate. It'll come, eventually.
 
marcus said:
Im ok. No choice have we. Keep strong for the bin lids. My oldest is locked up at uni in fallowfield. Its just shite isnt it.

i just cant envisage a time of sat having a pint watching the blues, or a little weekend away
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it’ll happen. There’s never been a pandemic in history that’s caused this level of disruption for more than a handful of years and that’s without modern medicine and it’s always come in waves.

We now have a vaccine, that can be modified to stop mutations.

Come the summer you’ll be watching the Euros with a pint.
 
GM Scoreboard

Cases 1742 - most in two months. Up from 1665.

27% of the NW total 6337.

3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v TODAY :- 442 v 813 v 855 v 1742. Big increase since Christmas as you see.


MANCHESTER 343 - up from 238. Total cases 36, 971. Weekly 1885. Pop score up 62 to 6687. Weekly Pop up 35 to 341. Highest Manchester number for 9 weeks.

WIGAN 261 - down from 338. Total cases 20, 162. Second GM borough to top 20K cases. Weekly 1339. Pop score up 80 to 6135. Weekly Pop up 50 to 407. Wigan has gone way out of control since Christmas and its Weekly Pop has risen by 220 in just 7 days.

STOCKPORT 191 - down from 229. Total cases 13, 315. Weekly 1098. Stockport back over 1000 a week for first time in months. Pop score up 66 to 4539. Weekly Pop up 24 to 377.

TRAFFORD 169 - down from 191. Total cases 11, 101. Weekly 1000. From nowhere we have 4 boroughs in four figures. Pop score up 71 to 4677. Putting it another 5 behind Stockport for best overall Pop score at 138. Reason being bigger population in Stockport so 191 there a bit better than 169 here. Weekly Pop up 48 to 421. Trafford has gone up 199 from 222 to 421 in just 7 days since Christmas.

SALFORD 154 - up big from 67. Total cases 15, 907. Weekly 827. Pop score up 60 to 6146. Weekly Pop up 32 to 316.

BOLTON 145 - down from 207. Total cases 17, 719, Weekly 851. Pop score up 50 to 6112, Weekly Pop up 24 to 297. Just stays below 300.

ROCHDALE 141 - up from 106. Total cases 15, 256. Weekly 738. Pop score up 63 to 6859. Weekly Pop up 26 to 333.

TAMESIDE 132 - up from 91. Total cases 12, 285. Weekly 676. Still best in GM but going up and up, Pop score up 58 to 5424. Weekly Pop up 27 to 301.

BURY 105 - up from 86. Total cases 12, 086. Weekly 693. Closing in on Tameside for the lead in weekly cases. Pop score up 55 to 6328. Weekly Pop up 19 to 361

OLDHAM 101 - down from 112, Top of the tree again for once scarily high Oldham. Total cases 17, 214. Weekly 736. Pop score up 43 to 7260. Lowest rise in GM today, Weekly Pop up 11 to 310.

Everywhere in GM weekly pop goes up and only Bolton JUST not in the 300s or 400s. Two or three weeks ago when we SHOULD have locked down everyone was in the 100s and falling. Now the NW has ended up being gifted the new variant for Christmas and instead of being in a strong position we are heading into a nightmare where as London falls we will be the region in the deepest hole during January.


If you live in the NW and are not angry - you should be. This was easily foreseen, was foreseen in here by many and could have been if not avoided then certainly mitigated.
 
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squirtyflower said:
Anyone know if dentists were mentioned as being open or closed?
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Yes (my missus works there) they will be staying open (where they have opened), the NHS ones are now seeing everybody because they have no choice due to the way they get paid, obviously it's still pretty restricted turn round as they have very restrictive ways to see people, even with full PPE, if they do anything that causes aerosol they have to close the surgery for 30 minutes, then the surgery is deep cleaned after that, if it's just a check up then they can see patients consecutively.
 
Len Rum said:
Online working - how's that gonna work?
Just askin' for a friend who's kids haven't got a laptop.
Oh and their broadband speed is shit because of where they live.
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In September I said school and uni’s starting the year was fuckwittery of the highest order. I despair I really do, I’m a working class bloke and could see it but we pay arseholes daft money to be even stupider than me.
 
Healdplace said:
GM Scoreboard

Cases 1742 - most in two months. Up from 1665.

27% of the NW total 6337.

3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v TODAY :- 442 v 813 v 855 v 1742. Big increase since Christmas as you see.


MANCHESTER 343 - up from 238. Total cases 36, 971. Weekly 1885. Pop score up 62 to 6687. Weekly Pop up 35 to 341. Highest Manchester number for 9 weeks.

WIGAN 261 - down from 338. Total cases 20, 162. Second GM borough to top 20K cases. Weekly 1339. Pop score up 80 to 6135. Weekly Pop up 50 to 407. Wigan has gone way out of control since Christmas and its Weekly Pop has risen by 220 in just 7 days.

STOCKPORT 191 - down from 229. Total cases 13, 315. Weekly 1098. Stockport back over 1000 a week for first time in months. Pop score up 66 to 4539. Weekly Pop up 24 to 377.

TRAFFORD 169 - down from 191. Total cases 11, 101. Weekly 1000. From nowhere we have 4 boroughs in four figures. Pop score up 71 to 4677. Putting it another 5 behind Stockport for best overall Pop score at 138. Reason being bigger population in Stockport so 191 there a bit better than 169 here. Weekly Pop up 48 to 421. Trafford has gone up 199 from 222 to 421 in just 7 days since Christmas.

SALFORD 154 - up big from 67. Total cases 15, 907. Weekly 827. Pop score up 60 to 6146. Weekly Pop up 32 to 316.

BOLTON 145 - down from 207. Total cases 17, 719, Weekly 851. Pop score up 50 to 6112, Weekly Pop up 24 to 297. Just stays below 300.

ROCHDALE 141 - up from 106. Total cases 15, 256. Weekly 738. Pop score up 63 to 6859. Weekly Pop up 26 to 333.

TAMESIDE 132 - up from 91. Total cases 12, 285. Weekly 676. Still best in GM but going up and up, Pop score up 58 to 5424. Weekly Pop up 27 to 301.

BURY 105 - up from 86. Total cases 12, 086. Weekly 693. Closing in on Tameside for the lead in weekly cases. Pop score up 55 to 6328. Weekly Pop up 19 to 361

OLDHAM 101 - down from 112, Top of the tree again for once scarily high Oldham. Total cases 17, 214. Weekly 736. Pop score up 43 to 7260. Lowest rise in GM today, Weekly Pop up 11 to 310.

Everywhere in GM weekly pop goes up and only Bolton JUST not in the 300s or 400s. Two or three weeks ago when we SHOULD have locked everyone was in the 100s and falling. Now the NW has ended up being gifted the new variant for Christmas and instead of being in a strong position we are heading into a nightmare where as London falls we will be the region in the deepest hole during January.


If you live in the NW and are not angry - you should be. This was easily foreseen and could have been avoided.
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Woah... woah.. woah. To much shouting there ;)
 
Marvin said:
If the virus behaves and the vaccine rollout goes OK we'll have 13 million vaccinated in 6 weeks on top of the millions who have been infected.
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Far too optimistic as usual, it's just wishful thinking.

Even after vaccination it takes 3 weeks for "immunity" to be "safe" from serious illness (for the majority), and you could still spread it, and as has already been posted tonight, it's going to be 3 months minimum, even if they can hit their target (which they have consistently missed on every other target they've set, so not very likely).
 
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