United thread 2020/21

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I think they're starting to get a bit giddy.
They've every right to get giddy. They were shite last season according to so many on here when they looked like finishing 8th, but ended up 3rd and in three semi-finals. Now they are still shite (but we couldn't beat them), they'll go top if they win their game in hand, they are in another semi-final and have most VAR officials in their pocket. Why shouldn't they get giddy?
 
Wow.
Genuinely surprised to see that, it is the closest I've seen from the MSM to ''calling out'' the cheating and diving from utd and the corruption/collusion from the officials.
It's funny in a way because when they worked for Sky you'd never see Keys or Andy Gray call out any perceived bias from the officials towards United as they were too busy blowing smoke up their arse. I seem to recall, however, that once they left Sky they pretty much implied that while employed there they didn't have the freedom to say what they really felt and were basically having to pander to a particular agenda.
 
He didn’t get the same abuse from the media, who banged on for days regarding Bernado. So a longer ban feels appropriate to me.
Pretty sure the reason for the longer ban is that the FA changed the rules at the start of the season. In other words, if Bernardo had done what he did last season this season then he'd get a 3 match ban as well
 
Rather than enjoying Li'pools results I am saddened. To me it clearly shows the corruption that is happening right in front of us. For 2 years the Premier League gave them every possible assistance so that they could do it. Last season when it was obvious they had achieved it they switched to helping the Rags get back in Europe and now win the title. The PL don't care how it is done and how obvious it looks, they just need it for the brand. The 2 penalty shouts last night would have been given to Liverpool last season and they definately would be given to the rags this season.
If we win it this year we have, yet again, had to do it against all odds.
 
Rather than enjoying Li'pools results I am saddened. To me it clearly shows the corruption that is happening right in front of us. For 2 years the Premier League gave them every possible assistance so that they could do it. Last season when it was obvious they had achieved it they switched to helping the Rags get back in Europe and now win the title. The PL don't care how it is done and how obvious it looks, they just need it for the brand. The 2 penalty shouts last night would have been given to Liverpool last season and they definately would be given to the rags this season.
If we win it this year we have, yet again, had to do it against all odds.
Manchester City have always had to be at least 150% better than everyone else in the league, because it's not just them we have to beat, but the ref's as well
 
Not valid. It was not a word that merely sounds offensive in English - it means little black man. So it is a racial reference. The fact that it is not considered offensive in Spain or Uruguay misses the point. Gay slurs are still acceptable in certain countries. Doesn't mean we should accept them here. Cavani may be ignorant rather than racist - but if Bernardo got banned, he absolutely should too.
Context is absolutely crucial and in Latin America that isn’t racism, it’s a term of endearment.

All it needed was the FA to pull him up and say that it sounds highly offensive in Britain, so maybe try to avoid publicly using it.

It’s a bit of a ridiculous situation and endemic of the new culture of “racist until you prove otherwise” situation we find ourselves in.
 
Rather than enjoying Li'pools results I am saddened. To me it clearly shows the corruption that is happening right in front of us. For 2 years the Premier League gave them every possible assistance so that they could do it. Last season when it was obvious they had achieved it they switched to helping the Rags get back in Europe and now win the title. The PL don't care how it is done and how obvious it looks, they just need it for the brand. The 2 penalty shouts last night would have been given to Liverpool last season and they definately would be given to the rags this season.
If we win it this year we have, yet again, had to do it against all odds.
Yep, different rules for different teams.
 
Not valid. It was not a word that merely sounds offensive in English - it means little black man. So it is a racial reference. The fact that it is not considered offensive in Spain or Uruguay misses the point. Gay slurs are still acceptable in certain countries. Doesn't mean we should accept them here. Cavani may be ignorant rather than racist - but if Bernardo got banned, he absolutely should too.

Context is absolutely crucial and in Latin America that isn’t racism, it’s a term of endearment.

All it needed was the FA to pull him up and say that it sounds highly offensive in Britain, so maybe try to avoid publicly using it.

It’s a bit of a ridiculous situation and endemic of the new culture of “racist until you prove otherwise” situation we find ourselves in.

That's the thing, it's got no racial context in the Latin America.

The literal translation is "little black one", but no one in Uruguay would use it that way, it's like telling people that "kid" means baby goat, no one uses it that way.

This has really upset/pissed of South America - the word was trending all across the continent on twitter because they're pissed off that they're being told a word they use every day as a term of affection is racist by someone who doesn't even speak the language.
 
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just had a look on the Caf,got to laugh...some of them genuinely think their established regular title challengers & we are just plucky underdogs punching above our weight.....this fucker must be about 13.....

"It should be noted that they have massively benefitted from the rest and planning time afforded by the Everton postponement. Ironic that their lack of discipline has ultimately benefitted them today. Nonetheless they have played very well, although I do not think they are at the level that puts them ahead of United."
 
That's the thing, it's got no racial context in the Latin America.

The literal translation is "little black one", but no one in Uruguay would use it that way, it's like telling people that "kid" means baby goat, no one uses it that way.

This has really upset/pissed of South America - the word was trending all across the continent on twitter because they're pissed off that they're being told a word they use every day as a term of affection is racist by someone who doesn't even speak the language.
I wish I was as world savvy as you. Only a few weeks ago you were an expert on Greek law, now you know all about Uruguayan culture. Well done!!
 
I wish I was as world savvy as you. Only a few weeks ago you were an expert on Greek law, now you know all about Uruguayan culture. Well done!!

Well it's this amazing thing, when something is in the news, people write things called articles, and then you can read them and learn more about a subject. And if you read them from a bunch of different places, you get different viewpoints and can see the different perspectives.

Then, when you've learned about it, you can form your own opinion and maybe discus it on a football forum.
 
That's the dumbest analogy I've heard about the whole situation. It's absolutely not applicable.

If you want to make a comparison it's like you going to Saudi Arabia and saying something in Egnlish and being arrested because what you said sounds like a blasphemous word in arabic.


Let's be clear here, Cavani said a completely inoffensive word in common use in Spanish and he's been punished because someone decided it sounds like an offensive word in another language.

The Uruguayan PFA completely nail it here -

"He merely used a common expression in Latin America to affectionately address a loved one or close friend.
The sanction shows the English Football Association's biased, dogmatic and ethnocentric vision that only allows a subjective interpretation to be made".
No one on here really cares because they think it's funny a United player got banned, but this is the FA deciding that they can unilaterally decide what is racist and not, independent of whether it actually is. Now any player, including ours, can face a 3 match ban and get painted as a racist publicly if they simply say a word that sounds a bit like something offensive in English to someone at the FA.
I agree mostly with what you say. I disagree on one point though. Some of us do care that it is a United player.

The Uraguayan PFA mention it, that Cavani is now tagged for the rest of his life as a racist, because our FA has decided a word he used quite innocently is a racist term. It is totally unfair on Cavani. It is not right that our FA gives footballers a permanent blemish on their record of racism, that they can do nothing about.

All the United based support of Cavani had said that the term he used can be offensive in certain contexts. This is true. It is also true that Cavani said this in a friendly context, and he should be judged on that basis.

I maintain that The FA is wrong in that it has created this set of rules giving itself no leeway to judge cases on their own merits.
 
Well it's this amazing thing, when something is in the news, people write things called articles, and then you can read them and learn more about a subject. And if you read them from a bunch of different places, you get different viewpoints and can see the different points of view.

Then, when you've learned about it, you can form your own opinion.
And quote shit on forums
 
Well it's this amazing thing, when something is in the news, people write things called articles, and then you can read them and learn more about a subject. And if you read them from a bunch of different places, you get different viewpoints and can see the different perspectives.

Then, when you've learned about it, you can form your own opinion and maybe discus it on a football forum.
Lucky you don’t use the same method to form your opinion on City
 
See ace coach extraordinaire Darren Fletchio has signed for the tax Dodgers. Olly says Fletcher has the utd DNA. Give it giggseh. And possibly Scholes. Or fumigate the rat infested shovel with napalm
 
just had a look on the Caf,got to laugh...some of them genuinely think their established regular title challengers & we are just plucky underdogs punching above our weight.....this fucker must be about 13.....

"It should be noted that they have massively benefitted from the rest and planning time afforded by the Everton postponement. Ironic that their lack of discipline has ultimately benefitted them today. Nonetheless they have played very well, although I do not think they are at the level that puts them ahead of United."

Aw bless his cotton socks.
 
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